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The Conspiracy Tapes

Who is 'The Horse Queen'? The Secrets Behind the Scammer That Ruined Dixon, IL

The Conspiracy Tapes

Sony Music

True Crime, History, Society & Culture, Documentary

41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

It's the 1990's and in the world of show horses, Rita Crundwell was the name on everyone's lips. Known as "The Horse Queen," she was the proud owner of hundreds of champion quarter horses on her ranch outside the small city of Dixon, Illinois. But something wasn't adding up with Crundwell's equestrian empire. A shocking FBI investigation revealed a decades long scam that Rita was running from inside the halls of Dixon City Hall, a scam that drained the town completely dry. How did this horse-crazed criminal get away with the largest municipal embezzlement in American history? Reveal the secrets of The Horse Queen on the new season of Crooked City: Dixon IL. Subscribers to The Binge can listen to all episodes of Crooked City: Dixon, IL right now, completely ad-free. Catch new episodes of Crooked City: Dixon, IL every week wherever you get your podcasts or subscribe to The Binge and unlock all episodes ad-free today. Just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the Crooked City show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you listen. A Truth Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi listeners I'm Alexa Burke and I'm jumping into your regularly scheduled

0:05.1

listening to tell you about one of the wildest American scandals to happen in

0:09.4

plain sight on the new season of Cro City, season 3, Dixon, Illinois, I'll take you to a city in the

0:16.2

heartland of America where a woman managed to drain her hometown dry in pursuit of her passion. Hundreds of champion quarter horses. Here's a bigger deal. This is Lee Berry Hill. After her and her husband Leonard heard about Rita's arrest, they

0:45.1

headed to the Mary Jay Ranch in Wisconsin. The helicopters were everywhere and

0:49.4

they're hanging out with big lenses and they're outside the gates of the Mary Jay trying to take pictures and you know you're just like

0:59.6

Wow

1:11.0

The Mary Jay Ranch was home to Rita's boyfriend, Jim McIllips, and many people wondered if he might have been involved in some way. Leonard Berry Hill was one of the first people to see Jim after Rita's arrest.

1:15.7

Jim was in shock.

1:17.9

He says he did not know what was going on and I believe it.

1:20.7

He's told me enough things and I and I have added two and two together on what reader would say many times.

1:27.5

I just don't think he didn't.

1:29.5

He always said that he would ask her sometimes about where's this money coming from.

1:35.0

And she'd just tell him, it's my money, and that's the end of the story.

1:40.0

And he'd always say, well, I'm just keeping my mouth job.

1:44.0

Jim asked me if I would go with him to get Rita out of jail, and I said,

1:51.0

sure. So, Lee and Jim and and myself we went to the jail.

2:02.2

When they brought her in with the leg chains and handcuffs, I thought Jim was going to have a heart attack. He turned all kinds of white.

2:21.0

She was in shackles in an orange up suit and two big FBI guys, one in front, one and back. I felt so sorry for her. She looked very old, tired, worn out. It just seemed surreal.

2:34.0

And that was quite a different scene to see someone that you have seen at the top of the world.

2:40.0

My other handc handcuffs in an orange

2:42.7

jumpsuit. That was pretty emotional.

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