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On the Media

Who Is The Bad Art Friend? Why Not Both?

On the Media

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🗓️ 14 October 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The story behind the viral New York Times Magazine article.

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0:00.0

This is Brooke with the On the Media Midweek podcast.

0:05.0

When stories, moments, and ideas, even memes go viral on the internet, a good question is to ask why.

0:13.0

Some tug at our heartstrings, like Charlie bit my finger. Others are just silly, like Bernie Sanders and big mittens.

0:20.0

But a few rise in the digital ranks because

0:23.1

they make us argue. We pick sides, and then we pick fights for and against people we don't know.

0:30.3

That was the case this week regarding two women who met in Boston over a decade ago.

0:35.8

Dawn Dorland and Sonia Larsarson were the subject of an article by

0:39.5

Robert Culker in the New York Times entitled The Bad Art Friend. Dorland and Larson were both

0:46.4

regulars at Grub Street, a non-profit writing center known for literary workshops and events. And as far

0:52.7

as facts go, that is at least one that everyone

0:55.8

in the story will agree on. The tale is one of two writers in extremists over perloined letters,

1:02.7

iffy intentions, and charged feelings. But for the internet, particularly the world of Twitter,

1:08.7

it was about so much more. So we called up a friend of ours to talk about his review of the story and the debate.

1:16.2

Journalist Michael Hobbs is host of the podcast Maintenance Phase. Thanks for joining us, Mike.

1:22.4

Thanks for having me back. Okay, so let's start with their initial meeting. The story in the New York Times jumps to 2015, I think,

1:31.3

when Dawn, who had moved away from Boston to L.A.,

1:35.0

made a big decision to donate a kidney to a stranger,

1:39.8

just to put it in the bank.

1:42.1

And then she made a decision to create a Facebook group about it.

1:46.0

Yes. She created a private Facebook group. It's not totally clear how many members of it there were,

1:52.5

but Don says it's roughly 20 to 30. Sonia says it's 250 to 300. It seems like from all of Don's

2:00.0

correspondence, it seems quite clear that she was using this as a

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