Who Is Police Unions?
Who Is?
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🗓️ 2 March 2021
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
One of the defining characteristics of the modern nation state is that the state has a monopoly on the use of force. In the United States, police officers are a manifestation of this agreement, to which we are all parties--whether we like it or not--and that is perhaps one reason among many why the apparent lack of accountability that seemingly pervades incidents of police misconduct is so troubling: it throws into question the terms of the social contract. There’s a lot to talk about here, but when it comes to accountability, or lack thereof, there’s a story to be told about money, politics, and power, and that story is playing out in cities across the country, and is visible not only in the contracts that police unions negotiate with the cities who employ them, but in the role police unions play in local politics. On this episode of “Who Is?,” Sean Morrow tackles police unions, and goes to St. Louis to see how reform continues to unfold in the metro, nearly seven years after the killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson.
- Phillip Atiba Goff, a Professor of African-American Studies and Psychology at Yale University. Dr. Goff is a co-Founder of the Center for Policing Equity, a research organization that promotes data-informed approaches to police transparency, equity, and accountability
- Stephen Rushin, a Professor at Loyola University Chicago School of Law, where he teaches criminal law, evidence, and police accountability
- Blake Strode, Executive Director of ArchCity Defenders, a nonprofit civil rights law firm based in St. Louis, Missouri
- Retired Sergeant Heather Taylor, a 20-year veteran of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department. Taylor was previously President of the Ethical Society of Police, a police association in St. Louis
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| 0:00.0 | The difference between police unions and other unions is the ways in which they have become political |
| 0:06.0 | and the kinds of fights they have allegedly on behalf of rank-and-file officers. |
| 0:12.0 | So a teacher's union never argues, or almost never argues, that a teacher was justified for killing a student. |
| 0:19.0 | But that is a major role that police unions play. |
| 0:23.9 | In 2014, 18-year-old Michael Brown was killed by police officer Darren Wilson of the |
| 0:31.1 | Ferguson Police Department, which is basically in St. Louis. |
| 0:36.2 | Protests erupted, and at the time, it really felt like this tragedy would be the one that |
| 0:41.2 | would result in some kind of reckoning, some kind of real substantive change. |
| 0:48.0 | Right now, in St. Louis, as I'm recording this, the St. Louis Police Association, one of the |
| 0:53.2 | local police unions, is in collective bargaining with their employer, the St. Louis Police Association, one of the local police unions, |
| 0:54.5 | is in collective bargaining with their employer, the city. |
| 0:58.0 | And that's super important, because police unions are, to an extent, |
| 1:02.6 | responsible for the kind of policing that we have in America. |
| 1:06.2 | They're an immensely powerful force in local politics from New York to Los Angeles to St. Louis. |
| 1:12.1 | And that's what we're getting into in this episode. |
| 1:14.9 | So, pardon my grammar, but who is police unions? |
| 1:23.8 | I'm Sean Morrow, and this is Who Is? |
| 1:26.8 | The podcast from Now This, where we look at power through the stories of people who have it. |
| 1:31.8 | Today we're looking at police unions, which are, yes, not a person. |
| 1:36.8 | And to do that, we're going to St. Louis. |
| 1:39.4 | But really, we could have picked just about any major United States city or even a smaller city. But we wanted to go |
| 1:45.6 | to St. Louis, because it's been almost seven years since Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, |
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