Who Is Domestic Violent Extremism?
Who Is?
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🗓️ 23 February 2021
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
On April 19th, 1995, Timothy McVeigh detonated a bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City; 168 people were killed, and hundreds more injured, in what remains the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in the United States. Twenty five years later, in 2020, FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress that the United States had recorded the deadliest year for domestic terrorism since the Oklahoma City Bombing. Then came the January 6th Insurrection. America has a problem, it seems, and the problem isn’t new. But why are Americans attacking America? On this episode of “Who Is?,” Sean Morrow digs deeper into the nature of domestic violent extremism in the United States, and the history we as a nation must face up to if we are to confront—and address—the violence which plagues our democracy.
- Alina Das, a Professor of Clinical Law at the NYU School of Law, where she co-teaches and co-directs the Immigrant Rights Clinic
- Roudabeh Kishi, the Director of Research & Innovation at the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project
- Susan Neiman, a philosopher and Director of the Einstein Forum. She is the author of many books, including “Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil”
- Kari Watkins, Executive Director of the Oklahoma City National Memorial & Museum
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| 0:00.0 | America has a problem. |
| 0:03.0 | A very American problem. |
| 0:05.0 | It's, well, Americans. |
| 0:09.0 | So I was a college kid working on my MBA, April 19, 1995, on my way at the door that morning |
| 0:15.0 | and watched the patio doors on my patio go out and come back in by the course of the explosion, probably about 10 miles north. |
| 0:23.0 | Felt the impact greatly. |
| 0:25.6 | Kind of went back to my living room area and turned the television on just to see like what in the world was that. |
| 0:32.5 | Didn't know it was a bombing. |
| 0:33.5 | I think a lot of people thought it was a gas explosion. |
| 0:35.7 | But the well-trained law enforcement |
| 0:38.8 | officers who had had bomb training knew almost instantly that this was not a gas explosion. |
| 0:43.3 | This was a bomb. |
| 0:45.5 | This was done on purpose by somebody. |
| 0:48.2 | On April 19, 1995, workers at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City showed up for work on a Wednesday. |
| 0:58.0 | They were just doing office stuff, maybe finishing their first cup of coffee at 9-ish in the morning. |
| 1:04.1 | These were moms and dads and coaches and Sunday school teachers and baseball coaches, little league coaches. |
| 1:12.9 | They were people you would recognize it in the church pew or the baseball stands or the basketball stands. |
| 1:18.9 | Yeah, it's Oklahoma City. |
| 1:21.3 | So what happened? |
| 1:23.3 | Two army buddies had worked on building a large bomb in the back of a rider truck, |
| 1:29.4 | back of a rental truck, and they had concocted a large 4,000 pound bomb in the back of that |
| 1:36.3 | truck, and one of those, Tim Thum Bay, the perpetrator, drove the truck and parked it in |
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