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🗓️ 18 August 2025
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0:00.0 | Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode, |
0:07.3 | who is creative, some more than others, and how to go from creativity to delivering a performance |
0:14.8 | or product. So do we all have some creativity in us? Well, yes. Can we learn and grow to be more creative? |
0:22.8 | Yes, as well. Should we all be living primarily as creatives? Well, I question this, and you'll hear that in a moment. |
0:30.1 | But what creativity that we do have, whether it's art or ideas or businesses or innovations or solutions to problems, |
0:39.0 | how can we best go from that idea or concept to actually doing and delivering something? |
0:46.1 | I don't want to do something with every creative idea I have, but with the ones that really |
0:50.9 | matter, I'd be lying if I said, I just made them all happen. I don't always. |
0:54.7 | And I haven't always understood why. |
0:56.9 | Which is why I have for you today and me as well, Zerana Ivchewicz Pringle. |
1:02.5 | So Zerana is a senior research scientist at Yale University's Center for Emotional Intelligence, |
1:09.3 | where she studies the process of making something |
1:12.3 | both original and effective, which is how she defines creativity, and explains how turning those |
1:17.5 | ideas into reality always starts with the choice to act, or what she calls the creativity |
1:23.7 | choice. It's a choice that must be made again and again until one's creative ideas |
1:28.0 | takes shape. And she has a new book called just that, The Creativity Choice, the Science of Making |
1:33.6 | Decisions to Turn Ideas into Actions. So in this conversation, we discussed not only what it |
1:39.1 | takes to get started with our creative ideas, but the psychological and emotional tools needed to sustain |
1:46.0 | the creative process to completion as well. So I really appreciate Zerana coming at this as a true |
1:51.5 | scientist and not telling us, hey, this is just something easy. She claims the creative process |
1:56.3 | is hard, actually. And when it comes to the original idea and presenting something that's actually |
2:02.2 | useful to humanity, well, I agree. That's been my experience. And I feel we do a disservice to |
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