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The Trey Gowdy Podcast

Who Do You Blame?

The Trey Gowdy Podcast

FOX News Podcasts

Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary, News

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Trey takes a hard look at South Carolina’s criminal justice system, using his home state as an example of how politics, policy, and priorities shape public safety. He explains why prosecutors face impossible caseloads, how judges are chosen, and what it really means to be tough on crime. Trey also closes with a personal reflection on his longtime friend, former DNI and current CIA Director John Ratcliffe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This will be a little bit of, I guess you would call it, pot-pery, well, just three ingredients, if you will, and they're not in equal parts.

1:03.9

First, the criminal justice system has been in the news a lot lately, as it should be.

1:09.5

It's the system whereby we decide what conduct is so wrong as to

1:14.1

constitute a crime and the process for adjudicating, trying, and sentencing that crime. You can tell a lot

1:20.5

about a city or a state or even a country by looking at the criminal justice system. And many of you

1:27.3

are quite knowledgeable about it, but I want

1:29.5

you to be experts so we can figure out what needs to be changed and why. And I'm going to use my own

1:35.9

beloved state of South Carolina as an example, and I do love this state. I was born here,

1:40.5

my wife was born here, our children were born here, I'll be buried here. We're at the

1:46.0

moment considered to be a red state politically, but we're also a red state for another reason,

1:51.3

as in the color of blood. A mass shooting last weekend near Buford, South Carolina, Logan Federico

1:57.7

made the national news. This state has seen the unthinkable with Larry Jean Bell, Susan Smith, Marianne Lindsay. The list could go on literally indefinitely. So at what point does a red state examine its criminal justice system to see where it can be improved and you can be made safer. And you don't have to live here to care

2:18.8

about justice. I mean, I hope many of you will visit South Carolina at some point or maybe have

2:24.5

loved ones who will visit South Carolina. But even if neither one of those things happen, we should

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