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Slate Debates

“Who Dey” vs. “Who Dat”

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4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Spectacular Vernacular, Nicole and Ben talk about the connection between football chants and language. They also interview Everdeen Mason, editorial director for games at the New York Times about her exciting role. And finally, our hosts are in the hot seat for this week’s wordplay. You don’t want to miss this! You could win a year’s membership to Slate Plus. Do you have any language questions or fun facts to share? Email us at spectacular@slate.com.   Produced by Jasmine Ellis and Asha Saluja.  Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Ben’s Wall Street Journal column, “’Who Dey?’: A Chant With Roots in Black History”  New York Times profile of Everdeen Mason  How to apply to the New York Times Diverse Crossword Constructor Fellowship  Washington Post article on “the latest reckoning over language in the puzzle world”  New York Times article on the acquisition of Wordle  Peter Gordon’s Fireball Crosswords  Subscribe to Slate Plus. It’s only $1 for the first month. To learn more, go to slate.com/spectacularplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think that the holidays feel like frozen noses. I love walking with the dog for long periods of time.

0:10.0

Hopefully it's snowing and you've got to wrap up warm. So I think a frozen nose is

0:13.6

then sweaty armpits because like you're wrapped up so warm but then you're climbing hamps

0:17.9

and heath and you get to the top and you're like and then you can see the breath

0:21.6

but then your nose is still freezing to touch.

0:25.0

Joy in every sip with red carp now back at Starbucks.

0:30.7

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0:51.5

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0:58.1

DHQ.

1:02.2

Hello I'm Nicole Holiday a linguistics professor at the University of Pennsylvania.

1:06.4

And I'm Ben Zimmer who language columnist for the Wall Street Journal.

1:09.1

And this is spectacular vernacular a podcast where we not only explore language.

1:13.8

We also play with it. This week our guest is Everdeen Mason,

1:17.2

editorial director for games at the New York Times. And later crossword puzzle editor Peter

1:22.2

Gordon turns the tables on us and challenges us with a word play quiz. Ben I see you've been busy

1:27.9

keeping up with your writing on the language beat. I stumbled across your recent piece in

1:32.9

the Wall Street Journal column you have and it was about who day. So for me as an Ohioan I was

1:39.0

delighted to see that. Yeah that was definitely a fun wonder rights. Do you want to say a bit about

1:43.8

who day for our non Ohio listeners. Right so fans of the NFL team in Cincinnati the Bengals who

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