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Slate Debates

Capital Language From Kyiv to Washington, D.C.

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4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Spectacular Vernacular, Nicole and Ben talk about how the capital of Ukraine has become a linguistic hot take. They also interview Jessi Grieser, a professor at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville about her new book, The Black Side of the River: Race, Language, and Belonging in Washington D.C. And finally, we bring on a listener for some wordplay. We hope you’re good at figuring out analogies. You could win a year’s membership to Slate Plus. Do you have any language questions or fun facts to share? Email us at spectacular@slate.com.   Produced by Jasmine Ellis and Asha Saluja Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: New York Times: “How Do You Say Kyiv? It Can Be Hard for English Speakers”  NPR “Kyiv or Kiev? Why people disagree about how to pronounce the Ukrainian capital’s name”  Jessi Grieser: The Black Side of the River: Race, Language, and Belonging in Washington, D.C.  “Bad Analogies” on Twitter Subscribe to Slate Plus. It’s only $1 for the first month. To learn more, go to slate.com/spectacularplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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and slash DHQ.

0:32.4

Hello, I'm Nicole Holiday, a linguistics professor at the University of Pennsylvania.

0:36.1

And I'm Ben Zimmer, language columnist for the Wall Street Journal.

0:39.2

And this is Spectacular vernacular, a podcast where we not only explore language.

0:43.7

We also play with it. This week, our guest is Dr. Jesse Gracer of the University of Tennessee

0:48.1

Knoxville, who has a new book out called The Black Side of the River, Grace, Language and

0:52.9

Belonging in Washington, D.C. And later, we'll try to stump a listener with a brand-new

0:57.1

wordplay puzzle.

0:58.4

And Nicole, one thing we have in common is we both love keeping up with current events.

1:03.6

I know we're both kind of news junkies. But as language people, we're always noticing

1:07.8

little things, you know, when there's a linguistic hot take that's related to the news in some way.

1:13.2

Yeah, that's kind of our jam and it turns out to be pretty helpful since we're hosting

1:16.7

a language podcast.

1:18.6

Well, this week, with all the concerns about a possible Russian invasion in Ukraine,

1:24.0

a certain city name has been popping up in the news quite a lot.

1:27.6

Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev. Kiev.

1:32.9

Oof.

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