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First Things Podcast

Who Defined Race in America?

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

David E. Bernstein joins Mark Bauerlein to discuss his recent book, "Classified: The Untold Story of Racial Classification in America"

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0:00.0

Hello there. This is Mark Bowerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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Located in the foothills of Wyoming's spectacular wind river range,

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Wyoming Catholic College, an accredited four-year Great Books Institution

0:27.6

is built on the ancient Western tradition of the liberal arts

0:30.5

and the freedom of the American West.

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The college offers its students an immersion in the primary sources of the classical tradition,

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the grandeur of the mountain wilderness, and the spiritual heritage of the Catholic Church. The college offers its students an immersion in the primary sources of the classical tradition, the grandeur of the mountain wilderness, and the spiritual heritage of the Catholic Church.

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Students experience the illumination of imagination and intellect through the great books

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and traditional disciplines, literature and philosophy, mathematics and theology,

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science and Latin, and an outdoor program second to none.

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The college celebrated an in-person graduation

0:55.8

with its seniors last year and welcomed its largest freshman class ever this year. Learn more

1:01.6

about the college's unique space in the world of American higher education at Wyomingcatholic.edu.

1:08.5

David Bernstein joins us today. He is Professor of Law at George Mason University, the Scalia Law School, where he also runs the Liberty and Law Center. His books include Lawless, the Obama administration's unprecedented assault on the Constitution and the rule of law, and a farther back book called You Can't Say That, the growing threat to civil liberties

1:33.7

from anti-discrimination laws, which actually I read when it came out and was very persuaded

1:38.7

by it.

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It goes back to 2003.

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Anyway, his new book is classified. The untold story of racial classification

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in America. Welcome, Professor Bernstein. Thanks, block. Great to be here. My first question is a

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general one with the mountains of commentary on race, affirmative action, CRT, and all that.

2:05.7

How can there be any untold story of race in the United States?

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You wouldn't think so, would you?

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