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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Who Botched the Mueller Report?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2019

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia has wrapped, and Attorney General William Barr's letter to Congress has been delivered. Michelle, Ross and David debate whether there really was "no collusion," if the media oversold the scandal and what should happen next. Then, is it time to abolish the Electoral College? The columnists disagree. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument. For tickets to the live show, visit https://timesevents.nytimes.com/OpinionApril. If you are having thoughts of suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 (TALK). You can find a list of additional resources at SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources.

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0:00.0

Hey, before we get started, I wanted to make an announcement.

0:02.3

The argument is having its first ever live show.

0:04.9

It's going to be April 10th at 7.30 pm at the time center in New York.

0:10.0

Come see Ross, Michelle and I debate in real life.

0:12.8

Get your tickets by clicking on the link in our show notes within your podcast app or by

0:17.1

going online to timesevents.nytimes.com slash opinion April.

0:23.6

That's timesevents.nytimes.com slash opinion April.

0:28.8

The tickets are settling quickly so if you want to come join us by your tickets now rather

0:32.5

than waiting, we would love to see you there.

0:35.4

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:36.6

I'm Ross Douthet.

0:37.7

I'm David Leeonhart and this is the argument.

0:40.9

This week, the Mueller investigation.

0:43.4

Did we all blow it out of proportion?

0:45.2

Yeah, I mean my response is short and sweet.

0:48.2

No collusion.

0:50.0

Which hunt?

0:51.0

Then, is it finally time to abolish the electoral college?

0:55.4

And I sort of feel like if our country were a little bit younger and more vigorous,

1:00.1

there would have been a regime crisis already.

1:02.6

And finally, a recommendation.

1:04.9

And both of those things seem more valuable than 99% of self-help advice that I can think of.

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