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Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio

White House Noshes: What Presidents Really Eat

Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio

Milk Street Radio

Arts, Food

4.23K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Jefferson ate capon, Eisenhower craved squirrel soup and Grant had a habit of throwing bread across the table. This week, we go into the White House with Alex Prud’homme to hear culinary stories from presidential history, like how Julia Child charmed her way into a state dinner and why Eleanor Roosevelt may have used Jell-O salad to get revenge on FDR. Plus, the late Raghavan Iyer reflects on curry, Indian cuisine and his legacy as a culinary educator; Alex Aïnouz experiments with AI in the kitchen; and we learn a recipe known as “killer spaghetti.” (Originally aired May 25th, 2023.)

Get the recipe for Spaghetti all’Assassina here

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0:00.0

Hey, Milkstreet Radio listeners, for our Thanksgiving episode this year, we want to tackle your

0:04.5

greatest Thanksgiving cooking challenges, savory and sweet. So if you need a new side dish, for example,

0:11.9

or help with your pie dough, we're here to help. Email us at questions at milkstreetradio.com.

0:17.6

One more time. Thanksgiving questions, please send them to questions at milkstreetradio.com.

0:24.4

Thanks.

0:29.1

This is Milk Street Radio from PRX.

0:31.3

I'm your host, Christopher Kimball.

0:34.0

While in office, Franklin Roosevelt thought a lot about food.

0:38.1

He craved fish-cooked-in-clay, had pheasins flown to him from Scotland,

0:42.3

and also had a taste for buffalo tongue.

0:44.9

And yet, his White House kitchen had a very different reputation.

0:49.5

Ernest Hemingway describes this dinner as one of the worst he's ever had.

0:53.4

You know, limp beans, a very thin worst he's ever had. You know, a limp beans,

0:55.5

a very thin soup, and he says, you know, I will not be going back there ever again.

1:02.0

Today, Alex Prudome shares food stories from presidential history, from what went so wrong under

1:07.7

FDR, to the meals that shaped American politics.

1:11.4

Jefferson convenes this wonderful dinner with James Madison and Alexander Hamilton,

1:16.1

and it's only a slight exaggeration to say that this particular dinner saved the Republic.

1:23.3

That's coming up later on the show.

1:26.6

First, it's my conversation with the late Raghavan Ayer.

1:30.1

I had the privilege of speaking with him in January about his book On the Curry Trail,

1:35.1

chasing the flavor that seduced the world.

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