White House launches into damage control after Susie Wiles' Vanity Fair interview about Trump, Cabinet officials

The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle

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🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles tells all to Vanity Fair and pulls back the curtain on Trump's policies and his cabinet. Latest jobs report includes a warning sign for the economy as unemployment hits a four-year high. And Trump escalates tensions with Venezuela, ordering a blockade of all 'sanctioned oil tankers' in and out of the country. Peter Baker, Leigh Ann Caldwell, David Drucker, Justin Wolfers, Gene Sperling, Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, and Barbara McQuade join The 11th Hour this Tuesday night.

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0:00.0	Tonight, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles' bombshell interview saying Trump has an alcoholic's
0:07.6	personality and that J.D. Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade. Then, money, power,
0:14.9	politics, why the latest jobs report could be a warning sign for the economy. Plus, the president announces a blockade on
0:22.8	all sanctioned oil tankers in Venezuela, what it means for the escalating violence in the Caribbean
0:27.9	as the 11th hour gets underway on this Tuesday night.
0:35.6	Greetings, everyone. I'm Simone Sanders Townsend. In for Stephanie Rule. We are now 321 days away from the midterms.
0:42.9	And we are tracking the fallout for the White House tonight after an explosive report in Vanity Fair.
0:47.7	In a shocking interview with journalist Chris Whipple, White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles,
0:52.9	unleashed a blunt assessment of President Trump and his cabinet,
0:57.0	describing Vice President Vance as a, quote, conspiracy theorist.
1:00.5	OMB had Russell vote as, quote, a right-wing absolute zealft.
1:04.6	And the president himself is having, quote, an alcoholic's personality.
1:08.9	You heard that right.
1:09.9	Here's how the full quote appeared in Vanity Fair. Wiles said, quote, some alcoholics personality. You heard that right. Here's how the full quote appeared in Vanity
1:12.0	Fair. Wiles said, quote, some clinical psychologist that knows one million times more than I do will
1:18.3	dispute what I'm going to say. But high functioning alcoholics or alcoholics in general,
1:23.4	their personalities are exaggerated when they drink. And so I'm a little bit of an expert in big personalities.
1:29.6	Wiles said Trump has an alcoholic's personality.
1:33.1	He operates with a view that there's nothing he can't do.
1:37.1	Nothing, zero, nothing.
1:38.7	It's important to note, Susie Wiles' father was, in fact, an alcoholic.
1:41.4	Shortly after, it was published, Wiles criticized the article as a, quote,
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