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The Dig

‘White genocide’ with George Ciccariello-Maher

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2017

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

George Cicariello-Maher is professor of political science at Drexel University and author of several books, including Building the Commune: Radical Democracy in Venezuela, published by Verso as part of the Jacobin Series. He recently drew the ire of white supremacist, "alt-right" trolls after a mocking tweet about "white genocide," including death threats to his family. Perhaps more concerning was the response from Drexel Administration, which almost immediately released a statement calling his tweets “utterly reprehensible, deeply disturbing,” and stating that they “do not in any way reflect the values of the University.” Drexel eventually backed off after a public campaign in defense of Cicariello-Maher. p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 13.0px 0.0px; line-height: 16.0px; font: 12.0px Geneva; color: #000000; -webkit-text-stroke: #000000} span.s1 {font-kerning: none} He discusses the incident as well as issues of violence and free speech in the United States.

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine. My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from AS220 in Providence, Rhode Island. On Christmas Eve, George Chikerell Omar, a professor of political science at Drexel University, tweeted, All I want for Christmas is white genocide.

0:23.2

On Christmas, he doubled down with,

0:25.6

to clarify, when the whites were massacred during the Haitian revolution,

0:29.8

that was a good thing indeed.

0:32.0

In response, Pepe the Frog-aligned Internet creatures

0:35.2

from the white supremacist alt-Right made him a target,

0:39.3

and George, the father of a young child, received a deluge of death threats.

0:44.3

Perhaps even more concerning was the response from Drexel's administration, which almost immediately

0:49.3

released a statement calling his tweets, utterly reprehensible, deeply disturbing, and stating that they

0:56.2

do not in any way reflect the values of the university. As George has noted, it's obvious that he

1:03.1

wasn't calling for the murder of all white people. Rather, as he wrote, white genocide is an idea

1:09.4

invented by white supremacists and used to denounce everything

1:12.8

from interracial relationships to multicultural policies. George, welcome to The Dig.

1:19.4

I'm glad to be on. Thanks for having me, guys. So I guess let's begin with the facts that the people

1:24.1

who attacked you either cynically ignored or ignorantly didn't understand.

1:30.3

What's white genocide and what did you tweet?

1:33.6

Well, I think the first thing to be said is that white genocide is actually not a thing.

1:38.2

And so this is an essential part of the story as it unfolds.

1:43.1

So white genocide is a paranoid conspiracy theory held by white supremacists who on the one hand

1:49.2

believe in race as a biological reality and believe that whites are under existential threat

1:56.0

by multicultural policies and by intermarriage.

2:00.5

And every time a sort of mixed baby is born

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