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The Dig

Fighting the Trump bans: Linda Sarsour and Nicholas Espíritu

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2017

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Today, we bring you two interviews. The first is with Nicholas Espíritu from the National Immigration Law Center, one of the groups mounting legal challenges against the ban, who will explain the legal and constitutional challenge to the Muslim and refugee ban. The second is with Linda Sarsour, the executive director of the Arab American Association of New York, a leading supporter of Bernie Sanders’ primary bid, and co-chair of the Women’s March on Washington.

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

0:08.9

I'm Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from AS-220 in Providence, Rhode Island.

0:15.3

The vicious depravity of Donald Trump's fear-mongering, xenophobic, and anti-Muslim politics are in full swing.

0:26.1

The man, who is most certainly but serially our president, has barred people from seven Muslim-majority countries, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen,

0:32.1

including, to an unclear and ultimately walk-back degree, lawful permanent residence,

0:37.0

from entering the United

0:38.0

States for 90 days, all refugees are barred for 120 days, and refugees from Syria are barred

0:45.0

indefinitely. What's gotten less attention, but is also quite serious, is that Trump slashed

0:51.2

the overall number of refugees slated to be admitted this year by more than half.

0:56.9

Meanwhile, on the racist scapegoating of Mexicans' front,

1:01.5

he has moved to construct more border wall,

1:04.6

widen the definition of which undocumented immigrants should be prioritized for deportation,

1:10.1

and cut federal funding to localities which

1:13.1

refuse to let their police departments cooperate with deportations, though it is unclear to what

1:18.4

extent such cuts will be legally possible. The Muslim ban, notably, does not apply to many Muslim

1:24.5

majority countries where the governments are powerful U.S. allies, including

1:28.6

Saudi Arabia, a U.S.-backed Salafist oil oligarch regime that pushes its violent and fundamentalist

1:35.1

creed around the world. By contrast, according to the Libertarian Cato Institute, foreigners from

1:41.2

those seven banned nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015.

1:50.4

This is far-right hateful political theater with cruel political and human consequences,

1:56.3

and it's also the extreme outcome of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, and militarist policies pursued

2:01.6

for years by the bipartisan political establishment.

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