You're listening to the Master Photography Podcast.

Welcome in to the Master Photography Roundtable, part of the Master Photography Podcast, network

you're joined by thousands of photographers listening to the show who are on the

same journey to master their photography.

I'm Jeff Harmon, the host for this episode, and joining me in the co-host chair today is Connor Hibbs.

Connor's so good to have you with me.

Yeah, super excited to be here after.

It's always a long time, but hopefully that'll change here soon.

Connor's was super busy going back to school and kind of making a bit of a pivot in his career and just glad you could carve out a few minutes to talk.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. My schedule is starting to free up at least a little bit.

I tend to not be the kind of person that lets free space sit there in my schedule,

but I'm hoping that with some of that space,

as I start to fill it, will be on to the show a bit more often.

Right, right. Yeah, I'm kind of the same. My family says I never take any downtime.

I'm always going to

I'm literally I don't know that I've sat and watched a TV show or movie in

seven or eight years without at least a computer to edit on in front of me.

Oh, well, I kind of preferred that way.

I like being busy.

Keeps me out of trouble.

But yeah, same.

OK, let's get into our topic. This comes, we've talked periodically on the show about

...