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True Murder: The Most Shocking Killers in True Crime History

WHERE MURDER LIES—Burl Barer and Frank C. Girardot Jr.

True Murder: The Most Shocking Killers in True Crime History

Dan Zupansky

News, News Commentary, True Crime, History

4.02.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The murder of a retired Los Angeles schoolteacher in 2004 never made the evening news, yet within hours arrests were made, charges filed, and a speedy conviction sent to prison Jimmy Kitlas, an incredibly shy, special needs teenager with no criminal history whatsoever.
20 years after the murder, a woman named Kelley Leigh asked Burl Barer and Frank C. Girardot to investigate. She believed that the case’s rapid resolution concealed a deeper, more troubling narrative—one marked by deception, manipulation, dishonesty, and a profound disregard for truth and justice.
She was right. Of the last three people to see the victim alive, only one had both the motive and the opportunity to strangle him to death, and it wasn’t Jimmy Kitlas.
What begins with a dead body on the bed leads to a bizarre scheme to steal a fortune in gold, a plot to smuggle MDMA, and an incredible joint effort by the American Mafia and the Russian Mob to defraud the United States Government out of billions of dollars. WHERE MURDER LIES: Death and Deception in West Hollywood—Burl Barer and Frank C. Giradot Jr.

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You are now listening to True Murder, the most shocking killers in true crime history,

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and the authors that have written about them.

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Gacy, Bundy, Dommer, the Nightstalker, BTK.

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Every week, another fascinating author

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talking about the most shocking and infamous killers

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in true crime history.

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True murder.

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With your host, journalist and author, Dan Zupansky.

0:40.3

Good evening. The murder of a retired Los Angeles schoolteacher in 2004 never made the evening news.

0:49.3

Yet within hours, arrests were made, charges filed, and a speedy conviction sent to prison Jimmy Kittles,

0:56.8

an incredibly shy special needs teenager with no criminal history whatsoever.

1:04.0

Twenty years after the murder, a woman named Kelly Lee asked Burr-Bear and Frank C. Girardo

1:10.1

to investigate. She believed that the

1:13.5

case's rapid resolution concealed a deeper, more troubling narrative. One marked by deception,

1:20.5

manipulation, dishonesty, and a profound disregard for truth and justice. She was right. Of the last three people to see the victim

1:31.0

alive, only one had both the motive and the opportunity to strangle him to death. And it wasn't

1:38.0

Jimmy Kittles. What begins with a dead body on the bed leads to a bizarre scheme to steal a fortune and gold,

1:47.0

a plot to smuggle MDMA, and an incredible joint effort by the American mafia and the Russian

1:54.0

mob to defraud the United States government out of billions of dollars.

2:00.0

The book that we're featuring this evening is where murder lies,

2:04.4

death and deception in West Hollywood,

2:07.2

with my special guests, authors Burr-O-Barre, and Frank C. Gerardo Jr.

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