Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I'm Karen Hunter, and today is January 20th, 2025. I mark the day because it's his story. Today is the day we celebrate Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

It is Martin Luther King Day. It is also the day that Donald J. Trump will be inaugurated into

the presidency. This is an inauguration day for the 47th president of the United States.

And I think history, 100 years from now, will mark this day.

I think history will mark this period of time.

So I thought it would be very poignant for me to not only sit with the vision of Martin Luther King, Jr.,

but also give a little history and also perhaps give a little perspective of where we are.

And where do we go from here, which is the book that we've been discussing in this space as we march to this day.

And I want to say, you know, in many ways I am optimistic. As much as I am sad at the State of our Union in terms of its division and lack of vision, I am hopeful

because at the time of Martin Luther King's death that we have talked about in this space,

he was very clear that what he had been working for and how he had been approaching it,

that perhaps he had gotten it wrong.

And I think he knew this, you know, many people today will be raising, I have a dream.

They will be talking about that.

But I'm going to play a clip of Dr. Martin Luther King, an interview, one of the last interviews he did

before he died with NBC, 11 months almost to the day before he was assassinated,

where he said his dream is a nightmare. And I said, okay, yes, because many of us who deign to do

something great or deign to see a world better than the one that we have currently.

You have these fancable views of people in humanity and hope that people,

you can call on their better angels, you can appeal to their better selves,

that everybody has in them good.

Well, I think Dr. King realize that it may not be the case. And in the face of that reality, beyond the dream,

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