Today, I want to talk about jobs. There are lots of worrying headlines about the job markets.

We've heard about big layoffs at firms like Amazon and other companies going into hiring freezes like Walmart.

We've heard that entry-level jobs are under pressure from AI,

that the amount of graduate hiring there is is going down.

So what should we make of this?

Is this artificial intelligence and its early effects on human work?

Or is AI just a convenient excuse for bosses looking to manage their costs. To explore this, I've asked

Ben Zweig of Rivellio Labs to join me. He is one of the more thoughtful founders and thinkers

on the topic of the labour market. And in this moment in time when the BLS, the Bureau of Labor

Statistics, has gone dark and become unreliable,

Ben's work at Revelyo Labs is providing a private sector take on what's happening in the job

market at large. So, Ben, I hope you're going to be able to bring some clarity to this

confusion and join me as we jointly explore what's happening to the world of work.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

Let's get started with what the headlines say.

You know, the headlines for a decade have talked about the threat of automation to the world of work.

I think it's now been 12 years since my friend Carl Frye and his

collaborator Michael Osborne published that famous paper about the way in which machine learning

might affect human tasks. And as we move into 2025, we are starting to hear stories. The entry-level job market in particular

seems to be collapsing. When you look across your data at Revelyo and give us a moment to understand

what data Revelyo looks at and gathers, what is the most accurate description of what's happening in the

labor market?

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