5 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 November 2025
⏱️ 22 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Today, I want to speak about how AI is creating a kind of split reality, a split reality around |
| 0:07.3 | productivity. It seems to be creating, increasing and improving productivity at the individual |
| 0:13.4 | level, but how much is it impacting firms and the wider economy yet? Now, do stay to the end |
| 0:20.6 | because there is a surprising bit of data |
| 0:22.8 | that throws more light, perhaps more confusion, on all of this. So let's get started. Why does |
| 0:29.0 | this question matter anyway? Well, if you've watched the stock market this week, you will know |
| 0:34.1 | exactly why. The mood around the AI boom turned sour over the NASDAQ and the |
| 0:41.1 | S&P 500, there have been several days of red. Key stocks that have enjoyed incredible gains in the last |
| 0:48.6 | couple of years and the last few months took an absolute pounding amongst them the hypers, the cloud companies like Oracle |
| 0:57.9 | and Corweave and Nebius who are in operation to serve up these AI models for companies like |
| 1:04.9 | OpenAI and others really, really in a sea of red. And even the hardware companies, like Vertive, which makes |
| 1:12.3 | cooling for data centers, having a really, really tough and torrid week. In another part of |
| 1:19.9 | the market, not the equity market, the bond market, we saw similar fear emerging. The bond market |
| 1:27.3 | tends to move slightly differently to the equity markets, but a number of |
| 1:32.0 | these companies in the AI space are dependent on corporate debt because you're having to raise |
| 1:38.6 | a lot of money to build out these big data centers. |
| 1:41.3 | And so for one example, Oracle's corporate debt took a real hammering down 8% this |
| 1:46.3 | week. And the CDS, which is a kind of interesting technical financial instrument, it's the cost |
| 1:52.8 | to ensure the debt of some of these companies spike. It got increasingly more expensive. And that's |
| 1:59.9 | often a signal that bond investors are a bit |
| 2:02.4 | nervous about the prospects of those firms. Now, in truth, the NASDAQ is still above its 50-day |
| 2:09.3 | moving average and this is often just the normal ups and downs, but perhaps it isn't. Now, the real |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from EPIIPLUS 1 Ltd / Azeem Azhar, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of EPIIPLUS 1 Ltd / Azeem Azhar and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.