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Conversations That Matter

Where Andy Stanley Went Wrong

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Jon discusses the recent controversy surrounding Andy Stanley and his statements on homosexuality in the church.


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0:00.0

I'm your host John Harris I'm finally gonna do it I wasn't gonna do it but now I'm gonna do it

0:20.5

and that is talk about Andy Stanley. And the reason I didn't want to

0:25.6

is because I just missed Stanley in my own mind three or four years ago and he started

0:30.6

making comments about the Old Testament and his belief is that the Old

0:37.6

Testament is no longer binding on modern Christians and this parallels something from church history, an ancient

0:46.4

heresy, called Marcianism, which by the way is a form of Gnosticism.

0:51.2

Marcian was an actual Gnostick, not a Gnostick in the sense of the loose

0:56.8

Gnosticism that's being thrown around everywhere today, but he was an actual

1:00.4

Gnostic in the classical sense of that definition and he thought that the Old

1:05.1

Testament was a product of it different God than Jesus an angrier, a God that we did not have to follow as believers

1:16.5

in the New Testament. And Andy Stanley doesn't go that far, but he has the same basic conclusion.

1:24.8

Christians are not bound to Old Testament moral principles, laws, etc. We talked about that issue on this podcast before but when I first

1:36.2

heard the clips from Andy Stanley I just dismissed him because it's a very

1:39.5

clear-cut issue. Jesus respected the Old Testament.

1:45.0

He did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill the law.

1:50.0

Paul said, I would not have known sin if it were not by the law. What law is he talking about?

1:56.0

New Testament wasn't finished. He's writing it.

2:02.0

Whenever New Testament writers bring up categories for sexual sin, they assume the Old Testament.

2:12.0

They assume that there's already a moral standard in effect.

2:16.0

And this is the same moral standard that flows from the character of God that

2:21.0

condemns sinners today and also for those who are

2:26.7

in Christ serves as a guide for them in how to live. Now the outworkings of this law,

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