Hey all you're listening to episode 174 of the God Center Mom podcast with me Heather McPhadian

get ready for lots of truth and lots of laughs I'm jattin with Lisa Harper today

here she is talking a little bit about God's love for us.

And you say, Jesus, give me the grace to lean in to stay present in your embrace.

With this warmth around me, you give me the grace,

you teach me the, really the sacrament of staying

in your embrace, in affection because he loves us with an everlasting

love.

It's just most of us wriggle out of his embrace as fast as we can and then we try to do a dance

to prove to him,

see see, I'm a good kid, see see, I'm a good kid.

If we would learn to linger longer in the affection of God,

I'm telling you we'd recognize the lies of the enemy much faster.

Y'all have done a lot of interviews and I have so many favorites, but this one might jump to the top.

Lisa is hilarious, first of all and she's also just

a great storyteller and truth-bringer. She knows God's word. She knows the

Greek and the Hebrew which I really love digging into that.

More than anything, she's great about being vulnerable. She shares on the show her

backstory that includes sexual abuse and how she recovered from that.

She talks through how she's ministered to other women.

She even shares her seven-year journey to adopting her beautiful daughter, Missy, from Haiti Haiti and gives us a you know a

couple of fabulous parenting tips in that. In about 30 minutes in we finally get

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