When Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own
Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle
Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2020
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Annamarie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These Converts edition. |
| 0:09.9 | We will be spending the entire season looking at converts and conversion experiences. |
| 0:16.1 | So far, we've been focusing on the rules of social psychology and neuroscience that make |
| 0:21.6 | those conversion experiences the fascinating exception. |
| 0:25.9 | It is almost impossible to change your own mind or to change someone else's. |
| 0:31.4 | Of course, just because it's difficult to impossible doesn't mean that people don't try. |
| 0:37.6 | And in this episode, we're going to talk about the most extreme version of changing someone |
| 0:42.4 | else's mind, brainwashing, thought control, indoctrination, the spooky stuff, in other words. |
| 0:52.0 | We'll be guided through the process by science writer Kathleen Taylor, author of Brainwashing, |
| 0:57.0 | The Science of Thought Control. |
| 0:59.0 | We reached her by phone in London. |
| 1:03.2 | Kathleen, welcome to the show. |
| 1:04.5 | Thank you for having me. |
| 1:05.6 | So this is a series about conversion experiences. |
| 1:09.4 | And for the first couple of shows, we focused on why it is very hard for one person to change |
| 1:15.2 | their own mind. |
| 1:17.0 | But I was hoping you could help us understand the extreme end of the other side of the issue, |
| 1:25.1 | which is when people try to force others to change their minds. |
| 1:31.3 | That's brainwashing, right? |
| 1:32.3 | That's what people think of as brainwashing. |
| 1:34.9 | Yes, the classic kind of mentoring and candidate perspective whereby somebody goes into a situation |
| 1:42.0 | of captivity and stress and comes out miraculously different with their all their beliefs changed |
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