When to Call in Palliative Care: Four Essential Tips / Alzheimer’s and Other Dementias
The Caregiver's Journey
Sue Ryan and Nancy Treaster
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🗓️ 12 August 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Are you feeling overwhelmed by the complexity of dementia care? Do you find yourself wishing you had more support navigating medical decisions and planning for the future? You’re not alone - and there’s specialized help available that many caregivers don’t fully understand.
We are Sue Ryan and Nancy Treaster. As caregivers for our loved ones with Alzheimer’s and other types of dementia, we both wish we had understood what palliative care is and how to leverage it earlier in our journeys. Unfortunately, when palliative care was first explained to us, it was explained incorrectly, and neither of us took advantage of all the great things palliative care has to offer.
We recently spoke with Dawn Kolderman, a registered nurse and Senior Clinical Director of Palliative Care Services at Avow, who has more than 30 years of nursing experience with the last 20 focused on palliative and hospice care. Dawn shared invaluable insights about palliative care that we wish we had known sooner.
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- Avow Palliative Care Link
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Takeaways
Tip 1: Understand What Palliative Care Actually Is
The first step is clearing up common misconceptions about palliative care.
Palliative care is a holistic approach to a life-limiting disease. This includes dementia — which is indeed a life-limiting disease.
The key difference between palliative care and hospice care:
- Palliative care patients are at the beginning of their journey and are still seeking aggressive, curative treatment while seeing all their providers and specialists
- Hospice care patients are generally at the end of their journey, no longer seeking aggressive treatment, and focusing on comfort care.
Palliative care is an additional supportive layer of care that works collaboratively with all your existing medical providers. Most importantly, palliative care focuses heavily on the caregiver.
Tip 2: Call Palliative Care In — Here’s How
Many caregivers don’t realize how accessible palliative care is or when to call it in. The answer is simple: the earlier, the better.
Tip 3: Understand the Goals of Palliative Care
Palliative care has specific, comprehensive goals that address both immediate and long-term needs.
Primary goals include:
Relieving physical symptoms first
Supporting the caregiver and family
Education and collaboration
Advanced care planning (ACP). This crucial component involves sitting down with the patient, caregiver, and family to discuss important decisions while your loved one can still participate in these conversations.
Tip 4: What Else You Need to Know About Palliative Care
There are several important aspects of palliative care that many people don’t realize.
Your loved one won’t look sick. The goal is to help them live their life fully.
Early intervention builds stronger relationships.
The nurse navigator’s role is specifically to connect you with community resources you might not know about.
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| 0:52.6 | Sue and I both wish we had understood what palliative care is and how to leverage it. So today, |
| 1:01.4 | we are talking with Dawn Colderman. She's a registered nurse and senior clinical director of |
| 1:08.6 | palliative care services at Avow. And we're talking about just that. |
| 1:13.6 | What is palliative care and when should you call it in? We're sharing four tips. |
| 1:20.1 | Welcome. We're Sue Ryan and Nancy Treister. This podcast brings our years of experience in a variety of |
| 1:26.9 | family caregiving roles to prepare you to navigate your caregiving journey. |
| 1:31.3 | We're sharing our personal experiences, not medical advice, and because it's our passion to support you on your journey, we believe no topic is off limits. |
| 1:41.4 | Let's get started. |
| 1:49.5 | Don, thank you so very much. It is great to have you here with us, and you are the expert. As a registered nurse for more than 30 years, with the last 20 being |
| 1:55.3 | focused on palliative and hospice nursing, you are an expert. And part of the thing from my lens of palliative care is |
| 2:05.6 | when it was first explained to me, it was explained incorrectly. I never took, and Nancy, |
| 2:10.7 | you've said the same thing. Neither one of us ever took advantage of all the great things palliative |
| 2:15.7 | care has to offer. We don't want that to happen to anyone |
| 2:19.0 | else. And so we want you here today to be able to share with us the different kinds of really |
| 2:25.2 | valuable care that palliative care provides and to eliminate what is so common, which is a |
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