When Things Fall Apart w/ Kelly Hayes (Unlocked)

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🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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This episode was originally released October 13th for Death Panel patrons and is being unlocked today for the first time. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod Against the backdrop of the Trump administration’s attempted occupation of Chicago, Beatrice speaks with Kelly Hayes about holding together in times of rising fascism and her new edited collection Read This When Things Fall Apart: Letters to Activists in Crisis. Find Kelly's book, Read This When Things Fall Apart, here: https://bookshop.org/a/118130/9781849355841 After many, many requests we're testing out a new Bookshop.org page (still under construction), where you can find books by past guests and book recommendations from the hosts. Find it here: bookshop.org/shop/deathpanel Show links: Get Health Communism here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9781839765179 Find Tracy's book Abolish Rent here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9798888902523 Find Jules' latest book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9781804291603 Outro by Time Wharp: timewharp.bandcamp.com/track/tezeta

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0:00.0	And as you mentioned, sometimes our part is keeping alive the people, including us, including our children, whose deaths would otherwise be manufactured by these forces that we're up against. That is part of the struggle too. Our survival is very much part of the struggle. Not letting these death-making systems destroy us
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1:29.0	I'm Beatrice Adler Bolton, and today I'm joined by returning guest and friend of the panel,
1:33.1	Kelly Hayes. Kelly is a nominee author, organizer, movement educator, and photographer. She is the host of
1:39.5	Truthout's podcast Movement Memos, and the creator of organizing my thoughts, which is a weekly newsletter
1:45.0	about politics and justice work. She is also the co-author of the book, Let This Radicalize
1:49.6	You with Maryam Caba, which we had the great honor of discussing in a past episode of Death Panel.
1:54.5	And I've asked her on today to talk about a new upcoming book that she edited called
1:59.2	Read This When Things Fall Apart, Letters to Activists
2:02.3	in Crisis, which is coming out from AK Press in November. Kelly, welcome back to the death panel.
2:07.4	It's always so nice to get the chance to have you on. Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's so joy to be
2:12.1	here. I'm so glad to have you on today to talk about the new book that you edited, which again is called
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