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A Tribute to Alice and Leslie (11/17/25)

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4.8588 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

We say goodbye to our friends Alice Wong and Leslie Lee III. Find a slightly longer version including Alice's last appearance on the show here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/143713819 Find Leslie's gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/lleeiii Find Alice's gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/alice-wong-stay-in-community Show links: We're testing out a new Bookshop.org page (still under construction), where you can find books by past guests and book recommendations from the hosts. Find it here: bookshop.org/shop/deathpanel Get Health Communism here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9781839765179 Find Tracy's book Abolish Rent here: bookshop.org/a/118130/9798888902523

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome to the Death Panel.

0:35.2

I'm Beatrice Soutler-Boltan, and today we're interrupting our regular schedule to pay tribute to two dear friends and comrades that we lost this week, Alice Wong and Leslie Lee III.

0:46.7

There are weeks when the world just feels like it spins off its axis a little, when grief piles on grief and the losses don't feel sequential so much as

0:55.9

simultaneous, like one blow that lands twice, three times, four times, again and again, and this is one of

1:03.8

those weeks. Losing Leslie Lee III and Alice Wong within days of each other feels like a rupture,

1:10.6

a tearing in the fabric of

1:12.1

the disability community. These are two people who shaped the way that so many of us think,

1:16.9

feel, create, fight, and dream. People we were lucky enough to collaborate with here at

1:22.7

Death Panel, to joke with, to learn with, and to learn from. People who each in their own way refuse to separate political clarity from tenderness or imagination and creativity from principled struggle.

1:35.7

Their work traveled across continents, timelines, and generations.

1:39.7

Quietly at times, thunderously at others, leaving behind a depth of influence of all us. Losing them

1:46.6

together feels like losing two constellations that have accompanied us for years. A lot of you

1:52.1

have been reaching out, saying you feel gutted, lost, scared, sad. I feel all of that too. We feel all of that too. It's a sharp heaviness at once personal,

2:06.5

political, and collective grief. So we felt it necessary to interrupt our regular programming

2:11.8

just to talk about it and to spend some time honoring and remembering our comrades, Leslie

2:16.4

and Alice. We not only want to name the grief, but we want to honor the worlds that Leslie and Alice built.

2:23.1

Their brilliance, the lessons they left us, and the kind of futurity their work insists that we claim,

2:29.2

a futurity that they never treated as abstract, but as something we build together day after day in relationships,

2:36.0

refusals, and creative, joyful, rageful, persistence.

2:41.8

I want to start by talking about our dear Alice.

2:45.5

Alice Wong altered the landscape of disability politics.

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