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🗓️ 8 April 2023
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Curtis talks with the “elder statesman” of Christian counseling, Dan Allender, about how therapy has influenced the American church - in much needed and also problematic ways. They explore how therapy has provided an important place for Christians to bring to Jesus the real, hard, and sometimes traumatic realities of life - often in ways that the church could not. They also examine how “moralistic therapeutic deism” increasingly describes the actual civil religion of Americans.
For examples of great books by Dan and his lifelong friend, Tremper Longman III, consider these two classics: Bold Love and The Cry of the Soul: How Our Emotions Reveal Our Deepest Questions About God.
For the original description of “moralistic therapeutic deism” as the religion of American youth, check out Soul Searching: The Religious and Spiritual Lives of American Teenagers by Christian Smith and Melina Lundquist Denton.
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0:00.0 | Hi everyone, this is Curtis. |
0:02.4 | I am so excited to share this week's podcast with you, but in my excitement of recording |
0:07.4 | this conversation, I forgot that it was going to drop right around Easter, and so I just |
0:12.6 | wanted to say to all the listeners, all of you gathered around the campfire, around |
0:17.6 | good faith. |
0:19.7 | Happy Easter. |
0:20.7 | He is risen, and that is the greatest news that gives us hope as we gather together. |
0:26.3 | So enjoy this episode. |
0:49.5 | Welcome to the Good Faith Podcast on your host, Curtis Chang. |
0:53.4 | The Good Faith Podcast is a production of redeeming Babel, and it is where friends who |
0:58.3 | follow Jesus help each other make sense of the world. |
1:03.2 | And helping us today make sense of the world of therapy and the church is a good friend |
1:08.9 | of mine, Dan Allender, Dan, welcomes to the Good Faith Podcast. |
1:14.0 | Oh, Curtis, what a delight to be with you. |
1:16.5 | Well, Dan, it's an honor to be with you. |
1:19.8 | And Dan is a, I don't know what to call you, an elder statesman of the world of Christian |
1:26.4 | counseling. |
1:27.4 | Just old. |
1:28.4 | Just old. |
1:29.4 | That's fair. |
1:30.4 | No, no, no. |
1:31.4 | Al, I remember going with elder statesman. |
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