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🗓️ 18 July 2025
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0:00.0 | Hey, deserve listeners. So recently I was on another podcast called Psychotherapy, Psycho-slash |
0:06.4 | Therapy, hosted by Leah Denton, and the podcast is about when therapists harm their clients. |
0:17.5 | And I want to just repurpose that interview on psychotherapy with Leodden as an episode of |
0:26.6 | my podcast because we got it into some interesting areas. |
0:30.8 | So let's just get to that interview now. |
0:35.0 | When I first began exploring conversations around therapy harm, I was struck by how |
0:41.1 | few clinicians there were willing to speak openly and honestly about the realities of harm within |
0:47.1 | their profession. You might expect ethical practitioners to be among the most eager to expose those |
0:53.9 | who damage the field's reputation. |
0:56.0 | But that is often very much not the case. |
0:59.0 | Whether it's self-protection, a sense of loyalty to colleagues, a fear that admitting some therapists cause harm might stop people from seeking therapy, |
1:10.0 | or even the assumption that if a client feels |
1:12.6 | harmed, it's just a symptom of their mental illness. Whatever the reason, a lot of therapists |
1:19.0 | prefer not to talk about the darker sides of their vocation. Dr. Kirk Honda is one of the exceptions. |
1:26.8 | In addition to decades of experience as a psychotherapist and professor, Dr. Kempathor, Dr. Kirk Honda is one of the exceptions. In addition to decades of experience as a psychotherapist |
1:30.3 | and professor, Dr. Honda is the host of a popular podcast and YouTube series called Psychology in |
1:36.5 | Seattle. He loves his work and he's passionate about growing the field of therapy by training |
1:41.7 | new clinicians. But he will be the first to admit, |
1:45.0 | certain therapists fail to serve their clients' best interests, |
1:49.0 | which is putting it very mildly. |
1:52.0 | He's also willing to grapple with the fact that in far too many of those cases, |
1:57.0 | the systems of oversight and accountability can seem more concerned with shielding practitioners |
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