My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts.

I want this show to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as

former Christians and non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions

about God, science, prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given bad answers to those good questions, often by people

with pure intentions.

I want to say that you have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world

very seriously.

And I hope to facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across

the Christian spectrum, engaging hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening.

Seri Concepcion, Justin Barrett. Thank you guys for joining me today. This is part episode,

part reunion of friends, isn't it? I first met you guys through the grant project that we are

sort of talking about today that's now mostly wrapped up. I've referred to it before as the Theo Syke

seminar or conference. I've also referred to it as

that thing at Fuller Seminary that we did. This is that thing. If you've heard me mention that,

that's what we're talking about today. Justin Barrett, you are the psychologist who was sort of

at the helm of this three-plus year grant through the John

Templeton Foundation.

Seri, you are, I don't know how to describe your role in it.

What would you, how would you describe it?

Well, I'm the director of communications for Blueprint, which is now Justin's affiliation

in Blueprint 1543.

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