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Today's episode has been a long time coming, and I'm so excited for you guys to hear my

conversation with Dr. Beth Allison Barr.

Okay. and I'm so excited for you guys to hear my conversation with Dr. Beth Allison Barr. My name is Dan Koch. Like many of you, I've been on a complicated faith journey for a number of years now.

And while I tend to find myself on the progressive side of Christianity, my goal is not to make liberal converts. I want this show

to be a resource for Christians to my right and to my left, as well as former Christians and

non-religious folks, anyone who finds themselves asking difficult questions about God, science,

prayer, fate, suffering, evangelism, and more. So many of us have been given

bad answers to those good questions, often by people with pure intentions. I want to say that you

have permission to take both Christianity and the modern world very seriously. And I hope to

facilitate that by introducing you to people seeking God across the Christian spectrum, engaging

hard questions in a multitude of ways. Thanks for listening. Hey guys, so I asked Beth Allison Barr for a podcast episode she had recently done that would be more kind of about the book itself because she's done so many of these that I wanted to sort of talk with her about stuff

she doesn't get to talk about very often. And she mentioned a very interesting interview with

Preston Sprinkle from Theology in the Raw. He is certainly to my right, and I believe to her right,

on these questions of gender and Christianity. But Josh is going to put a link to that episode

in the notes.

So if you want to get into more of the nitty-gritty of the book and the history, along with

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