I'm It's Hamatakiapi, it's so wonderful and such a deep honor to be joined by our two guests today to talk about

this wonderful book, When the Pine Needles Fall, Indigenous Acts of Resistance.

We are joined today by Katzikawas or Ellen Gabriel.

And she co-wrote this book with Sean Carlton.

So I'll turn it over to you, Ellen, if you want to maybe do an introduction,

who you are, and how this book came about, and then turn it over to Sean.

Sure.

I want to come to say, I want to get you.

I don't know how to go, and then you're going to have to.gat-you-jat you, to the other-gann-a-hack-gah-ha-ha-ha-gah-then-a-kda-he-hurt.

And I've got a-a-wehik, and so...

...the-jewan-the-jah-ta-way-and-the-your-know-my-maugnach-name, For me, it's important to start off in my language and to tell you that my Mohawk name,

I'm Turtle Clan. I'm from the Ganyakaha community of Ganeshagi, where I am.

I'm an artist, a documentarian. This is the first book I've written, and it was actually Sean's suggestion because we had done

some work together writing articles. Well, I wrote articles for Canadian Dimension and Sean has

written about the siege in Gona Savagia and Gonawaga in 1990. And so we just started doing

conversations together because Sean had suggested that while it's great to have videos and stuff, when the apocalypse happens and with no electricity, books will survive, hopefully.

So that was a whole point.

And it's also too, for me, it was really important because I've been doing this for,

you know, over three decades.

And I feel like we have to keep reteaching every generation that comes up.

It doesn't seem to stick for some reason.

And so hopefully this book will be used by professors. There's some that are already using it.

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