When the CIA's "Dark Side" Works

The Gist

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🗓️ 21 August 2019

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

On The Gist, if Peter Navarro wants to criticize the Wall Street Journal, he really ought to read it once in a while. In the interview, it's easy to condemn the CIA's post-9/11 interrogation techniques in retrospect. But as agency alumnus Philip Mudd puts it, "boy, back then, people said 'take out the stops, make sure it doesn't happen again.'" He talks about the relative effectiveness of harsh interrogation techniques, and why that shouldn't be a factor if ever American forces countenance them again (answer: the issue is a moral one). Mudd is a former deputy director at the Counterterrorism Center and the author of Black Site: The CIA in the Post-9/11 World. In the Spiel, there isn't all that much conservative hand-wringing over the New York Times' special coverage of historical slavery in America… but what's there is pretty uninspired. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Want to see a special episode of The Gist live in New York? Get your tickets here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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