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Jesuitical

When the church fails: How to balance being critical and Catholic

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac sit down with Colleen Dulle, America’s Vatican correspondent and host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, to speak about her new book, Struck Down, Not Destroyed: Keeping the Faith as a Vatican Reporter.  Ashley, Zac and Colleen discuss: - The spirituality of a Vatican reporter covering church scandals - Colleen’s experience attending—and leaving—the Latin Mass - Being present at Mass as a “professional Catholic” In Signs of the Times, Ashley and Zac discuss Catholic reactions to the monumental Gaza ceasefire and the denial of religious leaders’ request to deliver Communion to detainees at the Broadview, Ill., ICE facility.  They also look at Pope Leo’s first major document, “Dilexi Te,” and the newest member of the Castel Gandolfo community: Proton, the pope’s new horse. In “As One Friend Speaks to Another,” Zac talks about his relationship with Sister Jean Dolores Schmidt in the wake of her passing, as well as her years of pastoral work at Loyola Chicago. Links for further reading:  Buy Colleen’s book “Struck Down, Not Destroyed: Keeping the Faith as a Vatican Reporter” Amid historic deal, Gaza pastor says little is left after ‘tsunami’ of destruction Pope Leo pleads for a just peace as cease-fire in Gaza holds Eucharistic procession turned back by feds at Broadview ICE detention facility Roundtable: Pope Francis began ‘Dilexi Te.’ Pope Leo completed it. Pope Leo signs first exhortation, ‘Dilexi te,’ focused on love for the poor Pope Leo in first major document: Love for the poor is not optional for Christians Top 5 takeaways from Pope Leo’s first major document, ‘Dilexi Te’ Pope Leo ‘very happy’ to be gifted a horse from prestigious Polish stable Sister Jean’s legacy: A life of faith, service and basketball Sister Jean on Jesuitical What you don’t know about Loyola’s Sister Jean How Loyola Chicago’s Sister Jean prays—on and off the court You can follow us on X and on Instagram @jesuiticalshow.   You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/groups/jesuitical.  Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America magazine at americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Are you looking for a place to be alone with God in the beauty of his creation?

0:04.4

Come to Manresa Jesuit Retreat House, a place of peace and prayer to help you grow in your spiritual life.

0:11.9

Visit manrasa-sj.org for more information.

0:16.6

That's m-A-R-E-S-J-O-R-G.

0:23.4

Hello and welcome to Jesh-W-A-E-R-G.

0:34.6

Hello and welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast from America Media for Saints and Sinners.

0:39.6

You can join us each week for honest conversations about the Catholic Church and our world today,

0:44.1

sometimes over drinks.

0:45.4

I'm Ashley, and I'm joined by Zach Davis.

0:47.6

It's great to be with you, Ashley.

0:48.8

Great to be here.

0:49.8

I am feeling tired, not from the baby this time.

0:52.7

No.

0:52.9

But as I think I've told people on the show before I went on paternity leave, that I'm running the New York City Marathon this year.

0:59.4

Yeah.

1:00.2

And among the more foolish endeavors I've ever embarked on with a newborn.

1:06.3

But I just finished my longest run of the training program.

1:09.6

So I'm going to wheel this chair out of here when we're done recording an attempt to save my legs. And how long is that? 20 miles. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, so I'm feeling good. I feel like there aren't even 20 miles in Manhattan. You know, I ran from the office to the Bronx home to Brooklyn yesterday. Triborough race.

1:28.6

Yeah, that's right.

1:29.4

But we got a great show this week.

1:31.0

We sure do.

1:31.8

We are talking to our friend and colleague, Colleen Dully.

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