When the Battle Feels Personal with Jonathan Pokluda
The Jennie Allen Podcast
Jennie Allen
4.9 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Jennie is joined by her friend and brother-in-ministry, Jonathan Pokluda, for a real conversation about spiritual warfare, identity, and the promises of God. JP shares how the enemy attacks through lies, especially in the places where we feel most vulnerable, and why staying close to Jesus is the only way to fight back.
Together, they talk about the gap between what God has promised and what we’re still waiting to see - and how to hold fast in the middle of it. If you’ve been feeling pressure, opposition, or exhaustion lately, this episode will remind you that God is still with you in the fight.
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| 0:00.0 | What are the promises of God? |
| 0:02.2 | Like, what has God promised me? |
| 0:05.0 | And then have I realized that promise? |
| 0:08.4 | The gap between the promise and the realization of the promise, like, that's where we've got to hold fast to the promise. |
| 0:16.1 | We have to mind the gap. |
| 0:28.8 | Well, guys, I mean, one of my, I can't even call you, my friend. |
| 0:29.7 | You're not my friend. |
| 0:30.9 | You are my brother. |
| 0:31.9 | It's family. |
| 0:33.1 | We are family. |
| 0:34.7 | And we're family in every sense. Like, you are, you are mean to me. |
| 0:38.7 | I mean to you. |
| 0:39.7 | Oh, that's how you're going to start. |
| 0:41.2 | You're going to start with I mean to you. |
| 0:43.8 | I think if a thousand people observed this friendship, they would be like, gosh, he sure does put up with a lot. |
| 0:52.6 | Like, that's what they would say. You know what they would say? They would say, lucky JP. They would be like, I, lucky JP. That is the lie you don't know you believe. That is the lie you don't know you believe right there. See, welcome to our whatever this is. Unbelievable. We are, we are brother and sister. |
| 1:11.1 | I mean, |
| 1:11.4 | we, |
| 1:11.9 | we are, |
| 1:12.8 | we've been on the road a long time together. |
| 1:14.4 | And, |
| 1:15.0 | and we, |
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