All right, welcome back, everybody.

Today I have a return guest, Dr. Jamie Zuckerman, Dr. Z.

We did a podcast almost exactly a year ago.

Oh, wow.

Almost exactly a year ago.

And we focused, I think it was called

Inside the Mind of a Narcist with Dr. Z or something like that.

And we focused a lot more on the narcissist.

And I was thinking, well, screw them.

Let's talk about the victim, right?

Screw them.

Let's talk about the victim.

So I'd sent Dr. Z like some,

some thoughts I was having. I also wanted to find out from her, from you, like the stuff that's

just kind of pissing you off, which I want to wait a little while. Let's just get through some

of the discussion first, and then I want the audience to listen to some of the stuff here.

Mark, nothing pisses me off. Nothing. Of course not. You're just like me. Nothing pisses me off. We're the same, you know?

We're the dream. Nothing. We're all good. Lord. Well, actually, speaking of at the moment and the weirdness, so one of the things I wanted to talk to you about was like, things are so destabilizing right now in the world in general.

The new cycle, like every 24 hours, there's a new drama.

Apparently there's a potential alien invasion coming now as well.

Good God.

So when people come to you, what are you seeing, what are they coming to you with, especially people that have been psychologically abused and have been coercibly controlled with the world as it is right now?

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