What I would do is I'd cook Sunday dinner, so if I made two chickens on Sunday,

then I would work the second chicken into something later in the week and it was usually be the chicken breast because we all like dark meat

Because you're correct. Yes, it's better. It just is let's just say that it's just better I don't understand people who don't like

chicken thighs like where are you from it's for eaters. I'm Dan Pashman.

Each week on our show we obsess about food to learn more about people and this week I'm talking

with Michelle Norris host to the podcast your mama's kitchen author of the book Our

Hidden Conversations and former host of NPR's all things considered

welcome to the show, Michelle.

Hey Dan, it's great to be with you.

Now later on the show, you and I are going to take some calls.

We have a listener who's calling in to tell a story about her mother and something she's struggling

with. I think this conversation is going to be very much in the style of your podcast,

Michelle.

Then we'll respond to some listener hot takes and food disputes.

But before we get to all that, Michelle, let's talk a little more about you.

So your podcast, your mama's kitchen, I love the origin story this is the most

radio nerd origin story so it's right it's right near and dear to my heart

tell us how this podcast came to be.

Well, as someone who spends a lot of time behind a microphone,

you understand the importance of the mic check,

that when you talk to somebody, you need to listen to them,

talk a little bit,

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