When Leadership Expectations Are Exhausting | An Interview with Aaron Osman
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 31 July 2024
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Aaron Osman is a leadership coach and facilitator, hailing from Tahawai, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand. He educates leaders about wellbeing and leadership principles to foster deeper thinking and insights that enhance decision-making, emotional vitality, and overall leadership capability. His joy comes from participating with a leader in their wrestle with complex issues and witnessing them grow as a result of their effort. Aaron believes true empowerment and effectiveness are achieved when people align their thinking and behavior with correct principles..
Aaron has graduate diplomas in Sport & Leisure Studies from the University of Waikato and in Digital Media from Natcoll Design Technology, and is completing a bachelors degree in Organizational Psychology from Massey University. He has served in the Church as a branch president and counselor, a stake high councilor, in a bishopric, as stake and ward Young Men president, and as a Gospel Doctrine and Primary teacher.
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Highlights
In this conversation, Aaron and Kurt talk about managing expectations as leaders and the importance of surrendering to God’s will. Aaron emphasizes the need to focus on what truly matters in leadership, such as strengthening relationships with Christ, making and keeping covenants, and prioritizing time with family. He shares personal experiences as a branch president, highlighting the importance of surrendering to God’s will and trusting in His guidance. The conversation also touches on the principle of agency and accepting the consequences of others’ choices. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights on leadership, faith, and the power of surrendering to God’s will in navigating challenges and responsibilities as a leader.
00:02:18 – Introduction to Aaron Osman from New Zealand
00:09:33 – Understanding Expectations as a New Leader
00:15:24 – It Always Works Out
00:25:31 – Surrendering to God’s Will
00:34:40 – Thy Will Be Done
00:45:31 – Overcoming Overwhelm and Surrendering to God’s Will
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