When It Hurts Too Much, Finding God in the Middle of Pain, and What Do I Do With All This Pain? (Conversation w/ Andrew Damazio)
The Intentional Parents Podcast
Intentional
4.9 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 9 July 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
This week, Brook sits down with Andrew Damazio — pastor of Rose Church in Portland and author of My Heart Hurts: A Guide to the Theology of Pain and Suffering.
After walking through deep, personal suffering — often multiple losses at once — Andrew emerged with a burden to help others navigate pain with both truth and tenderness. When enduring pain, he was either approached with a highly theological response void of care or a purely pastoral response void of biblical truths. What he wanted — and what he needed — was both.
In My Heart Hurts, Andrew brings together sound theology and sincere pastoral care — offering not quick fixes, but a framework for walking through pain with both hope and honesty. Still in the midst of grief after the loss of his father and while walking with a close friend through their own suffering, Andrew speaks not from theory, but from lived experience.
In our conversation, Andrew shares his story of growing up as a third-generation pastor’s kid, coming to faith in adolescence, and eventually stepping into ministry. We talk about the difference between suffering in circumstance and suffering in perspective, the way ancient Christians expected suffering while modern believers often try to avoid it, and how we’re prone to unintentionally strip the humanity from Jesus in our search for tidy answers.
This is not a conversation that ties everything up neatly. Instead, it's an invitation to sit in the tension — to look honestly at pain, and to find Christ in the middle of it. Whether you're in a season of sorrow or simply preparing for the reality of life in a broken world, this episode offers wisdom, comfort, and the kind of truth that holds up under pressure.
Andrew Damazio: Rose Church, Rose Church Podcast, Instagram
Scripture Mentioned: Matthew 26:36-46, Luke 22:44, John 21:1-14, 1 Kings 17:1-6, 2 Corinthians 11:23-28, 1 Peter 1:5, James 5:16 + 1 John 1:9
Book Mentioned: My Heart Hurts: A Guide to the Theology of Pain and Suffering by Andrew Damazio
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Brooke Moser here. |
| 0:03.8 | I'm teaming up with Justin Whitmell Early, author of Habits of the Household, to bring |
| 0:08.5 | you something we believe matters deeply. |
| 0:11.7 | And it's called Intentional Fatherhood, a podcast for men who want to become the kind of fathers |
| 0:16.2 | who lead their families with purpose, faith, and steady everyday habits. |
| 0:21.9 | We believe that fatherhood is spiritual formation. |
| 0:25.9 | What we do in our homes, the small, consistent choices, |
| 0:28.8 | shape who our kids become. |
| 0:31.1 | And if we wanna break generational sin |
| 0:33.8 | and build a legacy of faith, |
| 0:35.3 | it actually starts with faithfulness right where we are. |
| 0:38.2 | This podcast is here to encourage you, challenge you, and even walk with you as you lead your |
| 0:43.9 | family towards Jesus one habit at a time. You can find intentional fatherhood on any podcast |
| 0:50.5 | platform. Give it a listen and let's walk this road together. On today's show, we have |
| 0:57.8 | Andrew DeMazio, lead pastor of Rose Church in Portland, Oregon. Andrew and his wife, Julia, |
| 1:03.3 | started Rose in 2018 to build a Jesus-centered, authentic community in the heart of the city, |
| 1:09.0 | and they're doing just that. Andrew's a gifted communicator, |
| 1:12.2 | a trusted leader known for speaking into real life issues with honesty and hope, and you're going |
| 1:16.5 | to experience that today. His new book is out, My Heart hurts, and it explores how we walk |
| 1:21.5 | with God through pain and suffering, and it's already making a very, very big impact. You're in for |
| 1:27.2 | thoughtful and encouraging conversation. |
| 1:29.2 | For anyone who hasn't had a chance to just simply rate and subscribe to the podcast or leave a comment, |
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