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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

When Innocence is Betrayed: A Neonatal Ward Nightmare

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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4.8 β€’ 1.8K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 5 September 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Thirteen vulnerable babies in the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal ward fell victim to a series of horrifying crimes that shocked the medical community. Subjected to methods as cruel as air injections and insulin poisoning, their lives were put at grave risk. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the dark tale of Lucy Letby, the nurse responsible for these atrocities. They explore the systemic failures that allowed these crimes to go unnoticed, the role of autopsies in such cases, and the psychological aspects that might have driven Letby to commit these heinous acts that have forever changed the landscape of neonatal care

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00:00:00 β€” Joseph Scott Morgan opens the episode discussing the vulnerability of newborns and infants.

00:01:17 β€” Joe Scott introduces the term "neonates," explaining that these babies are even more susceptible to harm due to premature birth or physical issues.

00:01:42 β€” The conversation focuses on the case of Lucy Letby, a nurse who attacked 13 babies in the neonatal ward.

00:03:19 β€” Dave Mack notes that Lucy had specialized training for the neonatal unit. Her problems began almost as soon as she started working there.

00:04:00 β€” A brief history of the Countess of Chester Hospital is provided. Dave Mack points out that Lucy was the common denominator in all the cases.

00:09:03 β€” Joe Scott highlights the odd nature of the medication errors and the strict procedures for medication access.

00:10:44 β€” The methodology used in administering medication through an indwelling IV is discussed, providing insight into how Lucy could carry out her actions.

00:14:44 β€” Joe Scott talks about the usual procedures when a baby is in distress. He points out that the unexpected reactions of the babies could have raised suspicions.

00:15:37 β€” Joseph Scott Morgan discusses the role of autopsies in understanding deaths. He notes how this process can be compromised in cases involving premature babies.

00:17:04 β€” A description is provided of the chilling scenario of a neonatal unit to which a dangerous person has access.

00:20:00 β€” Joe details the lethal effects of air injections in the bloodstream and in feeding tubes, one of the methods Lucy used, causing immense pain and cardiac arrest. He talks about

00:24:17 β€” Dave Mack talks about the unexpected nature of a nurse being a killer. He also talks about the moment a mother discovers Lucy in the act.

00:28:00 β€” The damning evidence found at Lucy's home, including clinical notes and confessions, is discussed.

00:30:40 β€” Joseph Scott Morgan talks about the final three murders, including two brothers who were part of a set of triplets. He confirms that Lucy can be classified as a serial killer, pointing out the rarity of female serial killers

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0:00.0

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

0:19.6

Handled care, fragile, you think about things that are so vulnerable in this world and

0:28.0

the first thing that comes to mind I think for us as humans are babies. I'm a proud

0:33.2

father. I've been present when my children were born. I've seen them up to this

0:38.8

point in life succeeding but a lot of that was deepened upon how my wife and I

0:46.6

treated and cared for them early on when they were so very fragile and you're

0:52.7

terrified the moment that that the life is handed over to you. I was particularly

0:58.1

terrified the first time I had to put a car seat in the back of a car and place

1:02.4

that baby in there and had to make an own but you gain confidence but you know

1:07.3

there's another group within infants that are even more vulnerable to the

1:14.0

horrors of this world and everything that can be inflicted upon them. They have to

1:18.4

be guarded like you can't even begin to imagine and those are what are commonly

1:24.0

referred to as neonates. These are babies that are more than many times prematurely

1:29.4

or they have other physical issues. They almost don't seem to be living

1:35.6

sometimes but they are and they begin to thrive within neonatal units. Today we're

1:43.2

going to talk about the wake left behind by Lucy. Let me. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan

1:51.0

and this is Body Bags. You notice I used to work wake wake is an interesting

2:01.8

thing because it is first off it's something that is left behind most commonly

2:06.8

associated by boat and you know me and my boat love my boat like going down the

2:11.0

river and you disturb the water which is otherwise peaceful and you

2:15.2

disrupted at least on the surface and certainly deep down. I think that we could

2:20.1

say that about Lucy. Let me. Lucy let me secretly attacked 13 babies on the

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