Hi Grove girls. Welcome back to the Grove podcast. It's Francesca Price here, and I'm excited to dive into this episode with you.

Today's conversation feels like a deep breath of grace, especially for the women who are walking through the highs and lows of motherhood or anyone learning to trust God with the parts of life that don't feel finished yet.

Shelly Giglio sits down with De Anza Duran, a pastor, mother of seven, and grandmother of 21

to talk about what it means to raise children and live faithfully with courage, trust, and joy.

You'll hear Dea Gizumse's wisdom about keeping your heart clean, building your home on God's word, and remembering that even when

we miss it, God fills in the gaps. Whether you're a mom in the middle of the mess or just

anyone learning to choose peace over fear, this episode will remind you that grace is enough

and joy is worth fighting for. So sit back, grab a cup of coffee, and let's lean into today's

conversation together.

De Anza, thanks for joining me on the growth podcast. So incredible to have you here. I've been so excited to be with you. It's such a joy. I love conversations with you. You got to be a part of our Grove conference a couple of years back. What a-

what a precious time just to be together and to see God minister so deeply to us.

Women in our house are still talking about it and the things that God did and set it to their

life.

So thank you for being such a consistent voice.

What I admire about you the most, I think, is your faithfulness.

And you don't always get to control how

and where you get to go and what you get to speak to. You don't always get to control how it all

plays out. But you are so faithful in what you say, the way you say it, and the way that you are

joyful in it. And it ministers so deeply to us.

And, you know, sometimes just having someone slightly ahead of you who's really staying the

course means more than you can imagine.

So thank you for being that kind of a person to us.

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