Welcome back to the Grove podcast. It's your friend Francesca Price here, and I am so excited to introduce today's conversation to you.

If you've been around the passion movement, you are no stranger to our friend Jackie Hill Perry.

Jackie is a force for the kingdom of God, a talented

author, an impactful speaker, and the host of her own incredible podcast alongside her

husband Preston, called With the Perry's. Jackie and Shelley unpacked so much goodness in this

episode together, from dying to our own ideas of success, to leading in your home, to prioritizing

and shaping your time with him, to trusting that Jesus is at work in every part of your story.

The list goes on and on. Our hope is that wherever this conversation finds you today, it would

speak to your own personal story, reminding you to let God use you,

even when it seems unconventional, to hope for what you have not yet seen, and to be more like

Jesus because of it. I can't wait for you to dive in, friends, so let's get started.

Awesome. Welcome to the Grove podcast. Jackie Hill Perry is here. One of my favorite people.

I love being back together. We just had a little moment together.

We had a podcast actually. We actually had a podcast before the podcast. We'll try to maybe reiterate some of the things that we were talking about.

But I love that you keep coming back. Thank you for that. And friendship goes deep.

I love you, Shelly. I love you back. You edify me.

I really am so encouraged by your life. And I think when I watch your life, I get to see the growth and the trajectory of what God's doing in you.

And not that you weren't on everyone's radar when I met you, you already kind of were.

But I think just the fact that God uses people is amazing.

Yeah.

The fact that he could use any of us is stunning.

Yeah.

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