It's not your job to make the Christian life feel a certain way.

It's drawn near to your Lord.

Most of us when we pray, we pray like we imagine a good Christian would pray.

And so we shouldn't be surprised that the whole time in prayer our mind's wandering and we're falling asleep because literally our body knows we're bored.

Friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology in the ROM.

My guest today is Dr. Kyle Strobel, who has a PhD from the best university in the world.

That is University of Aberdeen, Scotland.

He is a systematic theologian who teaches spiritual theology for Biala University and Talbot School of Theology's Institute for Spiritual Formation and Spiritual Formation Focus Programs.

He's also the author of several awesome books, including his most recent book, When God Seems Distant for You, You Do You Have a YouTube Channel.

Okay, you want to see my face? Here it is.

Here's this book. When God seems distant,

surprising ways God deepens our faith and draws us near,

which is the topic of our conversation. What do you do when

you feel dry? You feel like you're in a desert.

You feel like you don't feel God anymore. Does that mean God has left you?

Does that mean something's

wrong with you? Surprise, surprise. No, it does not mean something is wrong with you necessarily,

unless something is wrong with you. Or it definitely doesn't mean God has left you. We talk all about

that really fascinating conversation with Kyle, always love his wisdom and insight and how he

integrates intellectual rigor with spiritual

formation. Don't forget the Exiles of Babylon conference is upon us. If you're hearing this for

the first time, you already missed the early bird special. Sorry about that. But I've been talking

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