Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now, and you're listening to the Flying Free

podcast, a support resource for women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 70 of the flying free podcast. Today I have with me

Survivor. Her name is Julie and she is going to be sharing, I'm going to be asking her some questions and she's going to be sharing her story with you and I, we have prayed right before this podcast that you would be blessed and that God would use it to connect with you and to touch you in a special way.

So first of all, Julie, welcome to the Flying Free Podcast.

Thank you, Nellie.

It's good to be with you today.

Okay, so first of all, let's start by asking you, how did you meet your husband and were there any red flags before you married him?

I thought a lot about this question.

I met him 37 years ago in 1983.

I was a single mom at the time and I'm a veteran of the United States Navy and I had

been out for a couple of years and I had missed the military so I joined the California Army National Guard and my first assignment I reported and he, my

my husband was my instructor for a class I had to take. You know we didn't like

each other at first I thought I thought he was arrogant, opinionated, loud, but for some reason he was able to break

through that and the months went by and we started seeing each other and we were married the following year in 1984.

Interesting.

Red flags, you know, now, yes, at the time, no, I didn't even know what a red flag was.

I was in love and, you know, thought he was wonderful and caring and and believed that my first

impression was way off and wrong and you know didn't see anything in the beginning, nothing.

We had known each other, gosh, 14 or 15 months

before we got married.

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