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🗓️ 16 October 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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A Texas pastor has a divine recruitment strategy—he’s telling Christians to “Join ICE for Jesus.” We unpack his unholy mix of nationalism, cruelty, and theology while trying to keep their blood pressure in check.
Also in this episode:
• A preacher blames the wrong calendar for the rapture’s no-show
• Mormons raise nearly $400K for a shooter’s family
• Catholic preschools lose their anti-LGBTQ discrimination case
• Florida high school gets “Witchy Wednesday” backlash
• The ELCA names its first Black presiding bishop
Then, we face off over a big question: Should atheists be anti-theists—or can religion still have a place in a secular world?
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, everybody. |
| 0:03.0 | Hi, friends, well from beautiful autumn in Salt Lake City, Utah. |
| 0:22.6 | It's thank God I'm atheist. |
| 0:24.6 | A podcast where we, a couple of wakadoodle atheists, just try to make sense of life here in these United States. |
| 0:31.6 | I'm Frank Feldman. |
| 0:33.6 | And I'm Dan Beecher. |
| 0:34.6 | And coming up on the show today, Dan, are you against religion? |
| 0:42.2 | Or are you, what is it? |
| 0:46.5 | Like, are you anti-religion? |
| 0:48.4 | Yeah, like, I think we're going to ask the question, should atheists be antithists? |
| 0:56.7 | Oh. |
| 0:57.6 | Or should we, should we? |
| 1:00.5 | And this is, this is the controversial one in our group of people, but should we actually |
| 1:05.2 | make room for religion and even possibly potentially encourage it. |
| 1:11.6 | Question mark. |
| 1:13.5 | Okay. |
| 1:14.0 | I did not you were gonna even go that far, Dan, with it. |
| 1:16.8 | I didn't. |
| 1:17.5 | I just asked a question. |
| 1:18.7 | I'm doing a strident. |
| 1:19.6 | Absolutely not. |
| 1:20.6 | I'm, well, we'll see how this conversation goes later in the show. |
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