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So, Damon, where do we draw the line between cheating and ingenious exploitation of a regulation?

This has got the uncomfortable feeling of a time I was asked into the headmaster's office to explain myself.

Can I just make it clear.

You're not accusing me of anything. I'm just, where do we go all the line?

So let's get this. We're talking about it abstractly. We're trying to discover this.

What is the cheating? Because with our sport, clearly there are people who say,

there is no such thing as the spirit of the regulations.

It is what you can get away with.

And famously, I think it was Ross, you know,

said that you're a fool if you don't exploit the opportunity of a loophole in the regulations

towards that effect.

And in a technical point of view, there have been many examples in Lisbon

where people have said, well, you didn't clearly define that in the regs.

And we think that you could interpret the regs like that.

Therefore, we're going to do it.

And until they define it, that particular specific thing, let's say double diffuser,

for example, their discussions were had before, and what would happen normally is that

they would present their drawings to the FI technical working group

which I think would have included Charlie at that time

and they would have said well the reg say this but

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