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🗓️ 24 March 2020
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0:00.0 | This is an O-TM podcast Extra. I'm Bob Garfield, and that's the sound in Jerusalem last week of auto-descent. |
0:11.6 | How do citizens voice protest when a pandemic makes it too dangerous and illegal to peaceably assemble? |
0:18.8 | Last Thursday, this was a convoy of cars, sealed and self-contained, heading to the Knesset, |
0:25.6 | Israel's legislature. |
0:27.3 | Hundreds of protesters honked horns and waved black flags in protest of Benjamin Netanyahu |
0:33.4 | and his government's response to coronavirus. |
0:37.1 | New measures, they said, are undemocratic, |
0:40.1 | including surveillance technology |
0:42.0 | that employs the country's significant security apparatus in new ways. |
0:47.9 | Plenty of social distancing in this gathering, |
0:50.8 | but police tried to shut it down anyway. |
0:53.9 | Steve Hendricks is Jerusalem |
0:55.6 | bureau chief for the Washington Post, and he joins me now. Steve, welcome to the show. |
1:00.2 | Thanks. Thanks for having me. Let's begin with the surveillance element. Take me back to last |
1:05.0 | Wednesday when 400-some Israelis got a text message on their phones. |
1:11.3 | What did it say? |
1:12.7 | Basically, that you may already be infected with the coronavirus. |
1:16.4 | This was a brand new program that Benjamin Netanyahu had asked for and gotten permission to implement |
1:23.5 | in which the state security service was allowed to use its digital surveillance systems |
1:31.1 | in the service of viral tracking. |
1:34.9 | Basically, they were able to go through the phones, presumably, of every Israeli, see where |
1:41.4 | they had been in the previous few weeks, overlay that onto where they knew |
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