When Climate Work Comes at a Cost: Dispatches From the Upside Down
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🗓️ 31 October 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So this week's episode is called When Climate Work Comes at a Cost, Dispatches from the Upside Down. |
| 0:06.6 | And I think some listeners might appreciate knowing what is the upside down? |
| 0:11.2 | Yeah. So the Upside Down is a reference to the show Stranger Things. |
| 0:15.2 | And for the uninitiated, it's basically this alternate mirror dimension of the real world, but one that is kind of like underground and very dystopian. |
| 0:26.6 | It's dark. It's scary. It's like decaying. There's like electric storms and really scary monsters. |
| 0:33.6 | But it's also, it is like a mirror image of know, image of the world that the characters live in. |
| 0:39.1 | And so that felt apt to the moment that we're living in a little bit. |
| 0:44.2 | Yeah, especially for a lot of people who are working in climate right now, it can feel like |
| 0:49.5 | a bizarro world where you start out as a scientist and now you're getting attacked for your research. |
| 0:56.2 | And, you know, it's not fantasy. |
| 0:58.1 | It's real scary situations. |
| 1:00.9 | Indeed. |
| 1:01.8 | I'm Ariana Brocious. |
| 1:03.0 | I'm Kushanavidar. |
| 1:04.0 | And this is Climate One. |
| 1:08.6 | It is a really tough time to be working in fields like climate and the environmental sciences. |
| 1:14.6 | Honestly, when I read the daily headlines, it just feels kind of like a deluge of disaster. |
| 1:19.1 | There's a lot of bad news out there. |
| 1:21.2 | Yes, and it's worth mentioning that climate work isn't completely stalling out, |
| 1:25.0 | but it's hard to see all of these rollbacks and cuts and |
| 1:28.2 | canceled projects when we should be making progress. And climate in particular has kind of seemed to become almost a taboo realm because of the opposition and outright denial and attacks that are coming from many parties, including our own government. It reminds me of having a scientist come on to a pre-interview for this show, |
| 1:49.8 | and they were in tears, and they said they couldn't risk being on a show called Climate One right now, |
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