Environmental Peacebuilders Working in the Midst of War

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🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Fossil-fueled climate disruption is driving political instability around the world. The relationship between climate disasters and conflict are well-established — and also complicated. Even in war-torn regions like Israel and Palestine, people work across political and ethnic divides to address humanitarian and climate crises. The Arava Institute for Environmental Studies has helped bring together Israelis, Palestinians, Moroccans, and Jordanians to study and tackle shared environmental challenges. How does climate disruption reshape cross-border relations? And can climate cooperation become a force for peace? Episode Guests: Peter Schwartzstein, Environmental Journalist; Climate Security Researcher Fareed Mahameed, Assistant Director, Center for Transboundary Water Management, Arava Institute for Environmental Studies Liana Berlin-Fischler, Associate Director, Center for Applied Environmental Diplomacy, Arava Institute for Environmental Studies For show notes and related links, visit ClimateOne.org. Highlights: 12:42 Peter Schwartzstein on seeing the link between climate and violence 21:02 Peter Schwartzstein on the importance of governance 22:56 Peter Schwartzstein on better governance examples 27:17 Peter Schwartzstein on the danger of climate induced violence in the US 31:13 Peter Schwartzstein on new paths for cooperation 36:49 Liana Berlin-Fischler on moving to Israel 37:59 Fareed Mahameed on “fixing the world” 42:16 Fareed Mahameed on being compelled to help 47:05 Fareed Mahameed on figuring out what a community needs most 51:30 Liana Berlin-Fischler on the Jumpstarting Hope in Gaza project Support Climate One by going ad-free! By subscribing to Climate One on Patreon, you’ll receive exclusive access to all future episodes free of ads, opportunities to connect with fellow Climate One listeners, and access to the Climate One Discord. Sign up today. Ad sales by Multitude. Contact them for ad inquiries at multitude.productions/ads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:50.0	Before we get into today's show, which is not about Bill Gates, Kusha, I want to ask you about Bill Gates.
0:56.6	Wonderful. I was hoping you'd ask.
0:58.2	Yeah. So he wrote this lengthy memo recently and stirred up a lot of discussion in the climate community. Did you read this memo?
1:06.3	I did, Ariana, and it is lengthy and it is provocative. Gates put out this memo, and it's right
1:11.9	before COP 30, which is the UN climate conference that happens every year, and it's getting
1:16.9	underway right now in Brazil. And I think he wrote it to kind of stir up, to borrow your phrase,
1:23.1	world leaders, to rethink the way that they're spending money. So for listeners who haven't read it,
1:29.2	maybe Ariana, could you just kick us off with a little overview of what's in the memo?
1:33.4	Sure. So Gates makes three main points. First, climate change is serious, but we've made great
1:39.8	progress. We need to keep backing breakthroughs so we'll help the world reach zero emissions.
1:44.8	Two, we can't cut funding for health and development programs that help people be resilient
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