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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

When Chaos Reveals Who You Really Are: Alexis Jones

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

We’re kicking off a new series called For The Love of Calming the Chaos and we’re looking at all the ways chaos invades our lives, how to identify what’s causing it, and how we can forge a way to calmness (at least some of the time). It’s one thing to be busy, tackling the everyday things that need to happen, to feel like you are pulled in a million different directions. It’s another thing to be overwhelmed, where a sense of hopelessness creeps in that the storm of chaos that surrounds your days might never subside. Author and speaker Alexis Jones hit a wall in a life that looked amazing from the outside, but was teeming with chaos and fear on the inside. After several hard-hitting circumstances knocked the wind out of her, she found herself unable to take even the tiniest step forward after living a life that had been full of activity and accomplishments, checking off all the right boxes–and realized she had lost sight of who she really was. Her latest book Joy Hunter: Messy Face Plants, Radical Love, and the Journey That Changed Everything details the story of how she found her way back to herself in the midst of the chaos–and you can too. Jen and Alexis talk about:  The moment Alexis realized how the “gift of falling apart” would show her what really mattered When a tidal wave of chaos causes us to falter, how we can take steps to do something differently What it means to be able to find true joy after true sorrow  How you can reconnect with a version of yourself that is real and authentic * * * Thank you to our sponsors! Betterhelp | 10% off your first month. Visit Betterhelp.com/forthelove Storyworth | Save $10 on your first purchase. Visit Storyworth.com/forthelove Make Me Care About | Jen is hosting a special podcast series produced by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Check out "Make Me Care About..." wherever you get your podcasts.    Thought-Provoking Quotes “If I don't have these things that I can pull out of my back pocket and impress you with, then maybe I'm not extraordinary at all. And maybe I am simply an ordinary girl. And for me, that was never enough.” - Alexis Jones “Every single thing that I'd ever thought made me matter, was taken away from me, one after another. And that was the most beautiful invitation I had ever been given to find out who I really was and to start that journey of enoughness.” - Alexis Jones “We live in a society where it's so easy to numb. It's so easy to distract ourselves so that we don't have to feel all the feelings that are uncomfortable.” - Alexis Jones “I did everything right. I played by the rules and I checked all the boxes and I did all the things. Aren't I supposed to be happy?” - Alexis Jones “An ordinary experience like sitting in an RV, eating canned chili with my best friend and my husband, watching an old movie, and thinking, this is the most joyful I have felt in years.” - Alexis Jones   Guest’s Links Alexis’ Website  Alexis’ Instagram Alexis’ Facebook Alexis’ Twitter   Resources Mentioned in This Episode I Am That Girl - book by Alexis Jones Joy Hunter - book by Alexis Jones   Connect with Jen! Jen’s website Jen’s Instagram Jen’s Twitter Jen’s Facebook Jen’s YouTube   To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, Jen Hatmaker here, your host of the For the Love podcast. Welcome to the show.

0:09.4

I love it when I get to introduce a brand new series. That's always one of my favorite episodes

0:15.4

of every year when we get to like roll out the next handful of weeks where we're going to kind of

0:20.8

gather around the table, around the central idea. And so today kicks off a new series called

0:27.5

For the Love of calming the chaos. I don't know if I need to explain why we chose this as a series

0:36.0

right now. It almost makes me feel emotional. I feel a little bit tight in my throat when I just

0:40.2

think about there's just days right now I look around the world and just go,

0:46.4

wasn't meant to be this way, you know, like everything is so noisy and it feels so chaotic and

0:54.3

there's so much just loss and struggle and dissension and disappointment. And to some degree,

1:02.1

that's just how it's always been, right? Like every generation has had this experience. It's not

1:07.6

like we're the first generation to live in a chaotic world. It just feels acute right now.

1:14.4

And so we over here at the show, we're like, what if we built a series around this idea of bringing

1:23.1

calm to the chaos in a lot of different ways? It's going to have a lot of different facets.

1:28.0

But what would it look like to peel this down? Is it possible? Is it possible to experience

1:36.0

something close to calmness or peace in the midst of what is undeniably chaotic for every one of us?

1:44.0

And so that's what this series looks like. I feel like we've expertly chosen our first episode,

1:51.7

our first guest for this series to introduce the series. I mean, I never took a breath during this

1:59.3

episode. I was just so connected and listening and identifying and feeling inspired and feeling

2:09.3

something gentle, like move through my heart and mind over the course of this entire conversation.

2:17.1

So I know that you know what it feels like to make all the plans in the world and even like work

2:26.7

your little fingers to the bone, fall asleep at your laptop, have these big huge dreams and then

2:32.5

even then they don't add up, right? Or it's like a series of disappointments and losses and

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