When Anti-War Candidates Become War-Monger Presidents
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🗓️ 17 April 2026
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Summary
Sen. Bernie Sanders forced a vote on Wednesday to block the sales of bombs and bulldozers to Israel. The resolutions failed mostly along party lines with a handful of defections to the Republican side, but a record number of Democrats voted against sending weapons to Israel.
“A supermajority of Democrats oppose this war, are generally against America's global military interventions,” former Sanders foreign policy adviser Matt Duss tells The Intercept Briefing. Yet Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., joined 11 Democrats in voting against the measure to block the sale of 1,000-pound bombs to Israel, and seven Democrats against the sale of bulldozers used in Israel’s military occupations.
“We do have a Democratic Party leadership that still is part of this very small — and thankfully dwindling, though not fast enough — hawkish faction that is wedded to this idea of American global military domination,” says Duss.
This week on the podcast, Duss speaks to host Akela Lacy about how Democrats should use the overwhelming unpopularity of the war to push an anti-war agenda that brings about real change.
“There's a real constituency here for this message,” says Duss, “We need a foreign policy for this era that is based around building peace rather than making war, that is focused on foreign policy that benefits American communities and American workers, but also does not export insecurity and poverty onto others in the world. And I think this is a really opportune moment.”
The watershed moment in the Senate came against the backdrop of President Donald Trump’s hyper-aggressive military adventurism.
“My concern about blaming this all on Israel is that it lets Washington off the hook,” says Duss. “We have a foreign policy establishment that is addicted to militarism, that is addicted to war, who work at think tanks that are largely funded by the military–industrial complex. They are funded by weapons manufacturers. We have a political class that is really deeply committed to an almost religious degree to American primacy in the world, to American global hegemony. Which means that we are up in everyone's business all over the place all the time.”
“This Iran war is the most egregious and horrible expression of trends in our foreign policy that have been building for a long time, so are these boat strikes,” he says, referring to the Trump administration’s ongoing assassinations of alleged drug traffickers. “We've been killing people with flying robots in the Middle East and Africa and elsewhere for decades now.”
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| 0:00.0 | I don't know what's happening. |
| 0:02.8 | Somebody kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend. |
| 0:06.0 | Louisville police shot and killed 26-year-old Brianna Taylor in her apartment during what her family calls a botched drug raid. |
| 0:13.6 | Before Brianna Taylor, there was Catherine Johnston. |
| 0:16.1 | Atlanta police officers shot and killed 92-year-old Catherine Johnston. |
| 0:19.9 | And Donald Scott. |
| 0:22.8 | Donald Scott died in his living room. |
| 0:27.7 | It all began as a metaphor to demonstrate the country's commitment to defeating drug addiction. |
| 0:31.9 | America's public enemy number one is drug abuse. |
| 0:39.6 | But the war on drugs metaphor quickly became all too literal, complete with helicopters, military vehicles designed for abuse on a battlefield, and the suspension of basic civil liberties protections. |
| 0:43.8 | And the judge were just signed a no-knock-one. |
| 0:46.3 | They were kicking people's doors and violating people's rights. |
| 0:49.3 | The goal was to eliminate the enemy, And the people were the enemy. |
| 0:55.7 | This is collateral damage. |
| 0:57.6 | Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. |
| 1:04.9 | Welcome to The Intercept briefing. |
| 1:07.0 | I'm Akala Lacey, senior politics reporter for The Intercept. |
| 1:10.2 | And I'm Ali Ghadi, a senior editor at The Intercept. |
| 1:13.3 | We are well over a month into the U.S. Israel War on Iran and about a week into a ceasefire |
| 1:21.9 | that depending on which side you were listening to has either held or not held. |
| 1:30.2 | Ali, walk us through the latest developments. |
| 1:32.1 | What's the status of this war? |
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