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The Intercept Briefing

Amy Goodman on the Media’s “Access of Evil”

The Intercept Briefing

The Intercept

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Show description: As talks to end the U.S.–Israel war on Iran break down and President Donald Trump demands a naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, journalist Amy Goodman says that in times of war and conflicts, “What I care about is the answer, and I care that people in this country don't get health care at the same time that money goes to kill others in another country.”

This week on The Intercept Briefing, Goodman speaks to host Akela Lacy about a new documentary called “Steal This Story, Please!” The documentary follows Goodman’s life, journalism career, and the building of the independent news program “Democracy Now!” which just celebrated its 30th year. Recalling times when networks used their video footage, says Goodman, “I encourage that. Steal this story, please. It's a failure if it's an exclusive. We are covering these critical issues of the day, and we want to ensure that these stories get out because independent media is essential to the functioning of a democratic society.”

Many journalists and news outlets don’t ask tough questions to maintain what she calls the “access of evil — trading truth for access,” and to that, Goodman says, “Then it's not worth being there at all. It's our job to hold those in power to account.” 

She adds, “We can't have weapons manufacturers, who provide millions to networks to advertise determining our coverage of war. We can't have oil, gas, and coal companies determining our coverage of climate change, or banks and other financial institutions determining how we cover inequality. We need an independent media.”

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0:00.0

I don't know what's happening.

0:02.6

Somebody kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend.

0:06.0

Louisville police shot and killed 26-year-old Brianna Taylor in her apartment during what her family calls a botched drug raid.

0:13.6

Before Brianna Taylor, there was Catherine Johnston.

0:16.0

Atlanta police officers shot and killed 92-year-old Catherine Johnston.

0:19.8

And Donald Scott.

0:22.8

Donald Scott died in his living room.

0:27.7

It all began as a metaphor to demonstrate the country's commitment to defeating drug addiction.

0:31.9

America's public enemy number one is drug abuse.

0:43.9

But the war on drugs metaphor quickly became all too literal, complete with helicopters, military vehicles designed for abuse on a battlefield, and the suspension of basic civil liberties protections.

0:49.0

And the judge were just signed a no-knock-one. They were kicking people's doors and violating people's rights.

0:55.4

The goal was to eliminate the enemy, and the people were the enemy.

0:57.3

This is collateral damage.

0:59.8

Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

1:06.6

Welcome to The Intercept Briefing.

1:10.7

I'm Akail Lacey, your host and a senior politics reporter at The Intercept.

1:14.1

We're bringing you a very special episode today.

1:21.2

If you know anything about independent media, you've likely heard of the famous show, Democracy Now.

1:24.6

And it's intrepid and fearless host, Amy Goodman.

1:29.6

Radical leftist TV program called Democracy Now.

1:30.6

Not asking you again.

1:31.8

That way you get arrested.

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